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This is why decentralized, non-corporate social media is so important.
I agree with the point but it is kind of funny to see the oatmeal, the nickelback of comics, complaining about it
What’s the deal with both the oatmeal and nickelback?
I semi remember an interview with the guy from nickelback who said (obviously paraphrasing) that he studied the songs that reached number one in the rock chart, and noted that, ok they have this tempo, they have a key change here, etc etc, and set out to make a song that had those qualities. very successfully as it turned out.
there’s the same sort of essential cynicism (and subsequent success) with the oatmeal
id like to see that interview
Nickleback…
They’re a decent band, but they did release some songs that were mostly just rehashes of other songs. They also have released a shitload of great songs that were incredibly unique…
The problem is, they were too popular for their own good. Or rather, their popularity was divisive.
For those who didn’t listen to the radio in the late 90s and early 2000s, there used to be Rock stations covering almost every city in the US.
These stations would play Nirvana, Metallica, Green Day, and toward the end, Nickleback.
Now, because Nickleback albums went platinum, they were given extra radio play. And because some of those early songs were re-hashes of older (and still popular songs) people started getting sick of them, especially the metal heads who never really liked Nickleback or pop-rock in the first place.
This sort of split played out a few ways, but it basically boiled down to alt-rock splintering a bit. This led to a bunch of alternative radio stations going under or being bought out by clearchannel.
And Nickleback sort of caused it. Well, them and Creed. Why do I not see the same hate for Creed?
What are you talking about? The Oatmeal is bad ass! Probably one of the best things on the internet.
Didn’t realize it was objectively wrong opinion day again.
That day is every three minutes if you’re on the internet.
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I have no idea what you’re on about. The fact that all of them did it means nobody did it out of specific stupidity, and that it was just very difficult to see it coming.
I’m also not sure it’s the fault of “creative” people. If people only visit closed systems like FB / Insta / Tiktok etc. are creatives to jist not post there? (In an ideal world obviously not but …)
As soon as you start calling yourself a “creative” you’ve lost the point.
I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but I’ve actually heard from old timers in the Internet business warning that this was an actual problem for influencers back in 2012, so some people saw it coming and who doesn’t deserve some blame for lack of risk management.
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I agree, the ‘old timers’ are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years.
Especially with the way these companies positioned themselves. Google and Apple were the anti-Microsoft. Google even had the motto don’t be evil. Facebook was started by one of us! A hacker nerd dropout who loved open source. Of course he’s on our side!
It was not difficult to see where it was headed, even at the very beginning. It was just impossible to do anything about. When the majority of the common users only visit one site, and Google starts promoting that site above all others, burying relevant results, you have little choice but to put your stuff on that site. Matt (the guy who drew the cartoon) has been trying to migrate off of Facebook pretty much forever, but people don’t care.
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Why should anyone be blamed for something over which they have no control?
If you produce content, you 100% control where that content goes.
But you’re not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that.
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It’s unfair for to happen
This does not make what happened those people’s fault
Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions
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All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don’t have a choice. The billionaires, however, do.
Creatives post they’re stuff anywhere and everywhere. It’s a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us.
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“Creatives” are idiots then.
Good talk
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Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive.
And don’t get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won’t get you anywhere.
You think that’s unfair? Guess what, so do I
They deserve no sympathy
Pick one.
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Who are “creative” people? This is such a strange and vague demographic
Don’t give this guy any time. He’s advocating for executing all Republicans in another thread
Which thread? Sounds peachy.
https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/681722/-/comment/3961758
Yes, and it’s not just creative types.
There’s a whole lot of people building their businesses on top of other people’s businesses, and being super surprised when the rug gets pulled because the line went down.
We need a way for people to discover things based on other things they like, without money getting in the way and fucking everything up.
