i’ve seen this phrase used around here in a few variations and it rarely gets called out as problematic. i really don’t think its ok so i thought i’d ask: does hexbear think its ok? i can understand and support the use of violence against fascists and colonizers, but genocide is really their thing. i don’t see why it makes sense to use it even as a rhetorical device. why doesn’t this get called out? is genocide so normalized in casual conversation that it doesn’t register or what?

edit: i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke. i still don’t like it or get it, but i’ve had my fill of arguing with y’all so thanks for the info. i can see why nobody calls this one out. it kinda fucking sucks. i’ll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.

now that everyone has had a chance to chime in, i’m just going to add some context for y’all

  1. most of the responses i got at first were from [he/him]s which is why i said the above. nothing against any gender, just what i saw. it wasn’t my intention to misgender anyone sorry if it came across that way. i really meant it as an observation of who was jumping in to reply at the start of the thread, but i didn’t realize how it could be perceived in other contexts.
  2. i’m not american. i’m technically a US citizen, but i have much more significant cultural ties to SV, MX, and separately and to a lesser extent NA indigenous community. i don’t always get where western people are coming from. i like the overall tone of hexbear maybe i just don’t how imaginary genocide is supposed to be cathartic. i apologize if it came across like i’m trying to tone police y’all. that’s really not my jam, but y’all do seem a little pre-disposed to getting offended when your little jokes are questioned.
  3. i still don’t like the joke, so i’m going to remove them from my feed. if y’all don’t have an issue with it that’s fine. i was just trying to get a feel for what y’all think. the push back was a little upsetting after the day i had yesterday, but i’m over it now. i can live with curating my own experience based on my personal taste.
  4. i haven’t been that articulate, but i think my feelings are best summarized by this reply:

As someone that does find the joke funny, upon some reflection i have realised that it is an inapropiate joke, genocide is a horrific thing and to make light of it by making it a subject of a joke is in bad taste the same way that jokes about sexual assault are in bad taste, we rightfuly look down on redditors for the latter but allow the former

  • xj9 [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netOP
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    i’m on board with “the only good nazi is a dead nazi”, which is fine gallows humor. that’s different from using basically a fash position as a joke to seem like a cool nonchalant mass murderer. do you not hear yourself? or do you spend way too much time around fascists? i’m really not understanding why y’all feel the need to defend this joke so hard.

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        11 months ago

        that’s true! bad example honestly. its pretty clear that only a few people take issue with this joke like i do, you don’t need to make it any more clear. i understand that you love making genocide jokes and that nobody should question you for doing so because its completely laughable that a genocide against the global north would ever happen because reasons, right? thanks i’ve had plenty.

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          i understand that you love making genocide jokes and that nobody should question you for doing so because its completely laughable that a genocide against the global north would ever happen because reasons, right?

          No, genocide against the global north is funny because of the amount of violence they (we) commit against the global south, especially the extensive mass killings that aren’t genocide akshully, we didn’t mean to kill those millions of civilians. It’s a phrase of the global north that highlights our pain at the extensive atrocities that are committed in our name. It’s not a “ha ha funny” joke, it’s a “you can laugh or you can cry” joke.

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            11 months ago

            shrug-outta-hecks i had a bad day and i wasn’t vibing with the responses i got. i recognize that it wasn’t the best time to be doing a struggle session so i logged off after i made my first edit and some posts that i realized were pretty emotionally charged.

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      11 months ago

      If we wanted optics obsessed, concern trolling losers to police everything we say, we’d post on reddit.