• Voyajer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Not this Bernie bro shit again.

    E: I am pro Bernie. The Bernie bro label was used against him to fabricate a narrative that his supporters were bad people.

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      1 year ago

      YES this Bernie bro shit again. And forever. If the DNC didn’t sabotage him, we probably wouldn’t have had Trump

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      1 year ago

      Yeah let’s all get psyched about Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden.

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        1 year ago

        I’m no Joe Biden fan but he has absolutely already brought positive fundamental change. To say otherwise is reductive as fuck.

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          Well, if you want to prove your point list examples, don’t just say it’s true.

          Like, three things that because of Biden are significantly better than when Obama was president, and how those things outweigh all the shit that’s gotten worse.

          And I know:

          That’s not fair! It should start when trump left office

          But the main gripe with moderates is when they get in office, they take 2 steps forward. Slow, incremental progress. You can argue that’s the best method even.

          The issue is because nothing is getting fixed, and we keep running boring moderates, that Republicans get in office an immediately sprint backwards.

          So we don’t see incremental progress.

          We take massive leaps backwards, and then crawl a little bit back towards where we used to be. Rather than slow progress, shit just gets worse.

          And again, I see where someone would go with that:

          That’s not Bidens fault! It’s the voters fault!

          Well, the main job of a candidate is to get elected, isn’t that the defense for taking money from billionaires and corporations?

          Maybe we should try running candidates that voters are excited about if that’s what matters and “moderates” just can’t accomplish it.

          If voters aren’t excited about the slow crawl forward in response to the frantic sprint backwards, maybe someone who wants to run forwards would have an easier time being elected?

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            While I may give you points for your heart being in a right-enough place, your argument is fundamentally childish. Asking for citations is one thing, but gluing a qualitative uncertainty on the end of it is just shitty and simple-minded — devaluing any attempt at debate you insinuated an interest in by even commenting. Then, you continue to blather and rant, stroking your own pet notions in support of your perspective.

            Do better.

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              1 year ago

              Do better.

              Ironic coming from someone that just used a bunch of personal insults…

              Do you want to delete you comment before the mods get to it?

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                I don’t see a single “personal insult” in my entire comment, thanks. I called out your behavior as juvenile at worst and at best in bad faith. Do you want to read for comprehension rather than sensationalized reaction before anyone else here sees your apparent tendency toward victimization?

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                  My dog doesn’t understand the structure of our solar system…

                  Sun still comes up every morning tho, regardless of if he knows why.

                  I don’t waste time explaining it to him, because he’ll just never understand

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          Those are his words which he used to describe what his presidency would be like. If you don’t like that description then complain to Joe Biden about it.

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        Nobody said anything about Biden. Why is it always one or the other with you guys? How bout maybe someone who isn’t an old, wealthy, white dinosaur, who isn’t unelectable? Why do Joe or Bernie have to be involved at all?

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          1 year ago

          The post is about Bernie and Biden is the current President as well as the Democratic nominee for the next election. If you’re really not sure why those two people are being discussed here then I’m not sure what to tell you. Deductive reasoning is your friend.