• somethingp@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    Yeah but there used to be hope for affording a house after you finished and got into a tenure track position. But now there are barely any tenure track positions and even those don’t always pay enough for a house

    • HubertManne@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      11 months ago

      oh I know it. I was in a phd program in 95/96 and back then was grand times compared to now but one reason I gave up in my first year was a position opened up and the average resume had 7 years post doc experience and one guy had 12. That combined with no one graduating before 5 years anymore (used to be 4) and 6 not being uncommon and there was a guy in our program defending on year 7. So 6+7 is 13 added to 22 and you get 35 when you are starting your career because now you have to establish your lab and publish or perish. ugh.

      • somethingp@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        It’s kind of wild how many PhD positions there are for so few jobs. Maybe they should just start limiting how many PhDs can graduate in a year in the country to however many jobs there are. Create some sort of stability in the market and limit the number of young people wasting 10+ years of their lives in a field where they may not be able to build a career. Similar to how med schools limit numbers to stay proportional to the number of residency positions.