Sounds reasonably conscientious and professional to me… Just informal. Best combination IMO: Keep me informed, ask me for decisions when necessary, mitigate terror to my dog, talk and behave like a human, make me feel like you know your way around this and have it under control. Perfect service, no notes.
I’m a millennial, and any amount of casual customer interaction was quickly killed at my first job. I was taught how to speak in a professional manner, and was told I’d be written up if I was found to be speaking too casually to customers. Speaking to customers as if they’re your equal is just not something that was acceptable, even 15 years ago - you had to speak as if you were their servant.
I’m glad it’s changing - there was never a good reason for it in the first place - but I still cringe when I hear an employee speak casually to a customer, because I still think they’re going to get in trouble for it.
Yeah, I’m born '87, and pretty much any customer interaction at the myriad jobs I had (I got fired a bunch) was basically scripted. Bank. Retail sales. Life guard. Restaurant. You name it, I was supposed to say things a certain way, and generally in a way that I don’t think was clear or congenial. I’m a people person. I deal with the customer.
And I think this is why Gen Z is the way it is. They are dealing with two generations of people who are t i r e d of boomer social norms bullshit. Gen X was the first generation in a long time to say fuck it, but we never figured out anything else to do. Millenials figured out that this shit didn’t matter and how to navigate between people who care about “professionalism” and people who don’t.
Gen Z is, now, mostly dealing with people who don’t care about the false polish of professionalism, so they haven’t even acquired the habit of putting that face on for people.
I work a phone job and they expect at least some level of professionalism. That is, no swearing, no dirty jokes or being overly crude, etc. But otherwise they let us get away with a lot.
I love when I find my people and I can get workers to drop their guard and talk like a human. Same on the phone and in emails, I work in supply chain and new vendors are always super professional but I just drown em in emojis and eventually I get emojis back and I get people telling me about their dogs and families and the weather in Australia and shit.
Because it is, in fact, gen z. I deal with a lot of contractors in a tech field. There’s a lot of stuff we do that is prototype/beta level. It’s not customer facing. Rough edges are fine, having to reboot it once a day is fine, it just needs to work and if it’s not I need to know why.
Gen Z is wayyyyy better at that than millennials. Don’t spin me some bullshit, just explain the issues and how much of a headache I’m in for. Previous folks would give me some bullshit about “well it doesn’t do that but that’s out of scope of our original contract so fixing it is $X/hr on retainment for our expertise and our ability to bring in affiliate partners”. Gen Z is much more “man, this shit is cool, but those goal posts shifted, did the best I could, call me if you have issues and at a certain point and I if you’re a pain in my ass I’ll bill you”.
Like they just don’t beat around the bush. No spec is ever perfect, and rather than dance around it they’ll just be like “I did my best, and I’ll go extra until I won’t and I’m not really going to bother spending much time explaining to you we’re out of scope. You know it. I know it. I ain’t dancing because I don’t get paid to dance.”
Sounds reasonably conscientious and professional to me… Just informal. Best combination IMO: Keep me informed, ask me for decisions when necessary, mitigate terror to my dog, talk and behave like a human, make me feel like you know your way around this and have it under control. Perfect service, no notes.
Yeah, I was going to say, this is not only professional but charismatic. I’m not sure why this is peak gen z.
I’m a millennial, and any amount of casual customer interaction was quickly killed at my first job. I was taught how to speak in a professional manner, and was told I’d be written up if I was found to be speaking too casually to customers. Speaking to customers as if they’re your equal is just not something that was acceptable, even 15 years ago - you had to speak as if you were their servant.
I’m glad it’s changing - there was never a good reason for it in the first place - but I still cringe when I hear an employee speak casually to a customer, because I still think they’re going to get in trouble for it.
Yeah, I’m born '87, and pretty much any customer interaction at the myriad jobs I had (I got fired a bunch) was basically scripted. Bank. Retail sales. Life guard. Restaurant. You name it, I was supposed to say things a certain way, and generally in a way that I don’t think was clear or congenial. I’m a people person. I deal with the customer.
And I think this is why Gen Z is the way it is. They are dealing with two generations of people who are t i r e d of boomer social norms bullshit. Gen X was the first generation in a long time to say fuck it, but we never figured out anything else to do. Millenials figured out that this shit didn’t matter and how to navigate between people who care about “professionalism” and people who don’t.
Gen Z is, now, mostly dealing with people who don’t care about the false polish of professionalism, so they haven’t even acquired the habit of putting that face on for people.
I work a phone job and they expect at least some level of professionalism. That is, no swearing, no dirty jokes or being overly crude, etc. But otherwise they let us get away with a lot.
I love when I find my people and I can get workers to drop their guard and talk like a human. Same on the phone and in emails, I work in supply chain and new vendors are always super professional but I just drown em in emojis and eventually I get emojis back and I get people telling me about their dogs and families and the weather in Australia and shit.
Life’s to short for boring emails.
Because it is, in fact, gen z. I deal with a lot of contractors in a tech field. There’s a lot of stuff we do that is prototype/beta level. It’s not customer facing. Rough edges are fine, having to reboot it once a day is fine, it just needs to work and if it’s not I need to know why.
Gen Z is wayyyyy better at that than millennials. Don’t spin me some bullshit, just explain the issues and how much of a headache I’m in for. Previous folks would give me some bullshit about “well it doesn’t do that but that’s out of scope of our original contract so fixing it is $X/hr on retainment for our expertise and our ability to bring in affiliate partners”. Gen Z is much more “man, this shit is cool, but those goal posts shifted, did the best I could, call me if you have issues and at a certain point and I if you’re a pain in my ass I’ll bill you”.
Like they just don’t beat around the bush. No spec is ever perfect, and rather than dance around it they’ll just be like “I did my best, and I’ll go extra until I won’t and I’m not really going to bother spending much time explaining to you we’re out of scope. You know it. I know it. I ain’t dancing because I don’t get paid to dance.”
I mean I guess it is, just in more of a “the kids are alright” sense than probably intended.