This is not a zero sum game. there’s no competition. We can deal with both problems, we don’t have to pick a side.
Well yes, and the starting point is by dismissing the myth that the double standards are not applied to everyone. They are applied differently, but it is not something that only affects one group of people.
Is that really a myth? Because it feels like the only time this point is brought up is to “dispel the myth”, not the myth itself which I frankly can’t recall having ever heard.
My theory is that it’s actually a mix of angry dudes feeling excluded because they weren’t explicitly included by women talking about their own struggles, and of the fact that men just generally don’t talk about their struggles. So the coverage feels disproportional and the only time the subject gets brought up it’s because some angry misogynist managed to weave it into an “us vs them” discourse.
Men’s mental health is a huge conversation to have but it’s extremely disheartening that in the mainstream conversation it always pops up through misogyny.
So in the spirit of actually doing something about men’s mental health, here’s some actual discourse on the subjectLemmy needs an r/menslib equivalent
Why did this get immediately downvoted, lol
Because it starts by making an assumption about men when they want to talk about their mental health… sounds a tad sexist to me tbh.
My theory is that it’s actually a mix of angry dudes feeling excluded because they weren’t explicitly included by women talking about their own struggles
Ah yes, that explains it, just a mix of “angry dudes” who feel “excluded”. Right… maybe they are just men who care about men’s health? Maybe it’s just men who think, “Oh, yeah, I see this body issue, actually I can relate because TV also set unrealistic expectations for me”…
But no, it’s the angry dudes, the sad dudes, trying to steal spotlight from women… -.-
I think you got something wrong here. The comment talks about the “angry dudes” complaining that women would think men didn’t have this struggle. See very first statement in the meme. It’s about the myth not the real problem itself.
Whereas people actually participating in the discourse know very well those double standards apply to everyone.
I’m convinced the current influencer body standard for women (huge asses, giant lips, etc) was some joke by plastic surgeons and they just rolled with it
Apparently anyone can become a plastic surgeon because I’d never get any sleep if I made people look like that.
give me a syringe and a bike pump
Dude I like seeing sexy people on tv. If I want to look at something mediocre I can just look in a mirror.
You look mediocre? Lucky.
dad bod is still sexy, lots of people find that actively sexier
Maybe for relationships but I’d be mad if Superman came out with bellyfat because that ruins the whole “Super” man idea. He’d just be Man…
… You know this is probably still better than what DC is putting out now.
Well… he’s some form of super at least 🤣
If I recall correctly isuku midoria had a six pack before he got his powers and he was considered weak at that point
i feel we have different definitons of dad bod, it doesn’t mean beer belly lol
it just means not having a sixpack and being able to see every single muscle fibre, it’s what henry cavill looks like when he isn’t filming a movie where he needs chiseled abs.
I’m talking about that as well. Just because it’s Henry Cavill’s dad bod doesn’t mean I would want to watch a movie where Superman’s physique is that of a normal person.
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LoL. There’s a fish out there for ya if your line is strong enough.
Me, spending 6 months fighting with (and losing to) body dysmorphia but not knowing what it was, since I’m a man and no one told me:
As a woman it took 15 years before I found out what was wrong, at the time of finally seeing someone about it they said this was an average amount of time it takes to get help.
I hope you’re doing better now.
I hope you are too! My “advantage” was dating a trans person at the time, so it was a subject that came up relatively often. Just never considered a cis man having to deal with it.
None of those guys have a healthy hard-worker or warrior body. They all have a dehydrated, 1% body fat gym bro body, just like Hollywood wants us to believe a healthy man looks like.
blessed be the thor design from God Of War
actually none of them look particularly dehydrated. They just look like they’re straight from a good pump. Dehydrated would leave them very veiny, like, prominently.
Except the actors have talked about it.
I remember Hugh Jackman specifically talked about it in an interview as part of why he wanted to stop being wolverine. He was getting tired of the unhealthy regime of dehydrating to look as clean cut as possible.
yeah that’s why I used hugh jackmans wolverine as an example of what an unhealthy dehydrated body looks like.
These other guys aren’t dehydrated. They just look swole from getting a pump on directly before the scene was shot.
I doubt they’re even on PEDS. These body types are 100% attainable if you put in the effort and sustain it.
I doubt they’re even on PEDS.
While Dr. Schroeder refrains from explicitly mentioning specific Hollywood actors whom he suspects of using performance enhancers
I’m going with the doctor, rather than the random guy on Lemmy who provides no reference, just opinion.
that’s literally what the dr gave. an opinion. Also, I’ve been to medical school and have been bodybuilding since I was 10.
I myself managed this, and knew a bunch of folks that also did, about 15 or so years ago (trying to get back into it, however my health took a few turns since then). Then again I was taking supplements, such as Jack3D at the time (which has been banned for some time since), and wonder if those contributed to it.
Apparently no one is allowed to have body hair.
What’s weird is that hairy chests were considered the sexy style in the 70’s and 80’s, and then it suddenly changed. I blame Arnold.
Looking at what the young uns are wearing these days (and the resurgence of mullets), I would put money on chest hair coming back within the next decade.
I had a friend who shaved his chest and legs in the 00’s and it always seemed so weird. This was before the mainstream enlightenment, so he got called “gay” a lot. That’s kind of an odd reaction to it though, since he was doing it to attract women.
Women like femboys more than men
He definitely wasn’t a femboy. He was a very masculine male. He just shaved his chest and legs. He used to be a Chip N Dale’s dancer when he was younger, so I guess the shaving behavior probably came from those days.
It’s gonna have come and went before the decade has passed
Cavill almost always has chest hair. The only time I can recall seeing him without chest and stomach hair is in The Tudors.
Because IT’S ILLEGAL!
/s
This feels like “I’m 14 and this is deep” content.
It’s obvious that all Hollywood, social media and advertising models are not the average person. Are there really people that think men would be exempt from this? I doubt many.
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Sorry to link to that place but here: Hugh Jackman on mens’ magazines vs womens’.
did you expect “muscle & fitness” to have hugh jackman with the jumper on, or “good housekeeping” to have him tearing apart chores with claws?
Do women not buy muscle and fitness and that’s why it’s a “men’s” magazine?
abandon all hope ye who enter this comment section
Robert Pattinson’s physique as Batman was criticised by the mainstream (mostly by incels) as not being ripped and is skinny, even though experts say his body in “The Batman” is the most realistic built most men would be able to achieve.
I’ve gone longer than 3 days without water and I look nothing like those guys. Wtf?
Have you tried hiring a personal trainer and using ‘supplements’?
You have to cut out the Mountain Dew as well
how the hell do you go more than 3 days without water? these dudes have staff to make sure they don’t fucking die
Sure well defined muscles are aesthetically pleasing, but not nessa to be considered hot by most of the people you’ll date
Very true, in my experience lots of women like the idea of strength from big muscles but don’t really care to see the striated muscle fibers in a cut look. Hell some are turned off by the vasculature of my hands.
EDIT: Guys in comic books are ripped for the dudes reading them. I imagine the same is true for movie stars.
Oh everyone I know would love to date that. They just wouldn’t love the time and commitment required to build and maintain that.
Yeah I’m sure many of us would if it was just a pill you took lol
Nessa? We channelling Jar Jar Binks now? (All in good fun, OP)
Haha meesa see what you mean. An old friend used to say it and I just like the sound of it
You really think so?
Varies by person but yeah. Look at all the bears and bookish nerds that people fawn over
In case anyone is hoping to achieve the left side of the picture remember every one of the is on PEDs
Idris Elba lookin skinny compared to the rest of them. Also, I don’t think that’s actually Ben Shapiro bottom right lmao.
But aquaman is from the water.
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