Cops Unlawfully Handcuff Man Who Refuses to ID! He Sues for Unlawful Detainment and Rights Violation
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YouTube Shorts is throwing me in a rabbit hole of policeman seemingly overstepping the boundaries when stopping citizens for a routine check. The discussions often revolve around asking and not wanting to show their ID (“unless you can tell me what crime you accuse me of”). Is there a particular reason why they’re so hesitant to present their ID to the police officer? It only seems to escalate the situation. In Belgium I don’t see the harm in showing my ID when I’m stopping by a police officer. (added url as an example)

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.worldEnglish
    461·
    5 months ago

    Is there a particular reason why they’re so hesitant to present their ID to the police officer?

    If the officer is willing to violate your rights, what else might they do? Giving them your ID allows them to waste your time running your name through their system. The more time they spend with you, the more time they have to think of some bullshit justification for why they stopped you in the first place.

    People die in police custody. People have been permanently maimed and tortured while under arrest.

    Know your rights, and cede none of them without protest. They’re allowed to ask you to give up your rights, but they’re not allowed to take them from you. The law is on your side, even if the cops aren’t.

    • tswerts@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      95·
      5 months ago

      I know I posted this at the ‘the police problem’ community. But I thought that when pulled over by the police, giving your drivers licence, to show you’re allowed to drive, doesn’t do any harm. It’s common practice in Belgium to check if all your ‘papers’ are in order. And if so, you’re back on your way.

      • Clent@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        5 months ago

        In America the police see themselves as apex predators of citizens. For the purposes of self preservation, it is critical a citizen recognize this reality and not be fooled. The police are trained to deceive. The police are allowed to lie to you. They are not your friend. They have chosen an adversarial role in society, any messaging to the contrary is part of their predatory behavior.

        This is best illustrated by comparing what a police car looks like in America vs what a police car looks like in Belgium.

        American police cars are increasing indistinctive. They are designed to catch you unaware and blend into the herd.