jesus fucking christ lmao that comment feels like it was written in some kind of laboratory as a distillation of pure liberalism

“Do what you want as long as it isn’t against the rules!”

God these people are pathetic

A tacit admission that liberals construct their morality around what the state deems acceptable

It a worldview like that, a half-hearted insurrectionist riot becomes worse than countless massacres and dispossessions

A literal upside-down ideology

Isn’t it also not true of Andrew Jackson? He refused to enforce a supreme court ruling, famously. Lol.

now that I think about it Jan 6 was actually good since only chuds and cops were killed

If the system allows for genocide then that system doesn’t deserve to exist.

You can tell how reluctant they were to use the word “atrocities”. It won’t be long before even that is too much to ask for from these genocide apologist fucks

They were just following giving orders!

Say what you will about the guy who actually kicked off a Civil War, but look at these TikToks.

Jackson brazenly flouting a supreme court decision is “working within the system”, apparently

once again, admitting that their main problem with the nazi genocides was that they were illegal…

these are definitely sockpuppet accounts (at least the upvotes). Please don’t assume even the average PMC labor aristocrat is like this lol. but idk maybe pmc labor aristcrat redditors are.

The only hatred deeper than what I have for George W Bush is one that would lead me to throwing my life away to end his. I hate him even more for unlocking this degree of hate. There isn’t a word in any human language for my contempt for that loathsome wretch and it’s probably good that we as a species cannot conceptualize this level of hate in words. I have Ahab hatred for him and even though ill for sure outlive that despicable cur, with my last breath I will curse his name as he lays dead and that is an absolute promise.

And I. Canadian, imagine how someone from Iraq might feel.

Yeah, do you want to measure how bad a president was in terms of his “decorum” or “violation of norms”, or how “respectable” they were? Or number of human deaths caused by their policies?

You want to get a lib to say the most deranged shit possible ask them who they thought was a worse president, Bush or Trump

But was he a CHEETO

And Bush starting two wars that tore the entire region to pieces, along with the added side effect of accelerating the existing nationalistic fervor this shithole has

And Bush bringing the “they’re jumping the border and taking our jobs” talking point forward

And Bush signing the Patriot act

And so many other little things and big ones

Fuck Trump to hell and back, but he isn’t even the worst president of my life lmao

Liberals have completely forgiven Bush for the 2000 election and in fact seem to like the guy now. That’s such a whiplash to me and it’s proof that in 20 years liberals will have positive opinions about Trump

It was a different time! Nobody knew slavery was bad yet!

Also multiple who directly oversaw the deliberate genocide of the indigenous peoples of north america.

and even with that Bush was obviously worse

Trump’s response was bad, and he definitely had an impact, but not as much as you might think.

Unironically true, millions of Americans would’ve died of covid under any realistic American president. There’s literally no circumstance in which an American leader puts forward actually good covid policy, and in which the American people actually follow said policy.

Anytime a redditor claims they have a degree

Washington was just the guy who showed up to look nice and show off war medals. He was America’s hunky himbo. He also only took the job of presidency because he was broke.

Hamilton, Jay, and Madison were far more responsible than him. But I guess only Madison was president.

Show me Reagan’s mean tweets

set back the global movement towards liberation and socialism back by a 100 years.

roughly 2070s? god i hope not. i don’t think we’re going to make it that long into climate hell under the current system

I think you could make an argument for Jefferson, given how the Louisiana Purchase set the stage for a lot of the subsequent expansion and genocide. It’s probably inevitable that America would expand to some degree, but it could have been slower if they didn’t make the purchase, possibly resulting in a smaller and less powerful America.

Of course, there’s also the part where he owned slaves and upheld slavery.

I’m open to arguments for the worsitude of other presidents,

but fuck Johnson got to define the reconstruction era practically by himself – a country not even a full damn century old yet, blown apart by civil war, and he decides to save the southern plantation aristocracy WHAT THE FUCK what the fuck would world history look like without either Booth or him in the VP slot, it’s fucking unimaginable --; I damn well want to see those timelines, I desperately desire to know the weight and magnitude of that little shitstain’s life on the fabric of causality. I don’t believe in hell, but he makes me wish i could.

The big villain there is honestly H.W. Bush, who initially had a decent take on climate change (“this is a real problem that is not necessarily political that we should address”) but quickly reversed course, calcifying U.S. inaction on the matter.