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  • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    101 year ago

    Man just thinking about the blackouts in Ukraine make my skin crawl. “Demilitarisation” is one thing, but leaving people with no electricity in cities in late November? The kind of shit you won’t wish on an enemy.

    • DankZedong
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      111 year ago

      Living in an unheated appartment in Belgium already made me feel really bad for the people living in Ukraine. It’s even colder there. Like, I hope Ukraine gets defeated and all that but I also hope these people find the help and care they need. It’s not human to let people suffer so much.

      • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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        91 year ago

        What gas? Russian gas that’s getting pumped through Ukraine is getting sold to Europe. Yes, all this time gas has been flowing from Russia to western Europe through the Ukrainian pipeline. And it’s not just heating. Water pumps, sewage system, telecommunications, etc.

    • 陈卫华是我的英雄
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      31 year ago

      Surovikin’s plan is likely as follows: > Destroy Ukraine’s electric grid, water processing plants, critical infrastructure, etc. > It starts to get pretty cold >People think, “dang, I don’t want to freeze to death” >They move the West, which has energy problems of its own and a refugee crisis >Ukraine’s economy is by now not even crippled, it is disemboweled and shot in the head >Ukraine’s home front collapses, leaving its military out in the cold >Ukraine depends entirely on the West for weapons and money to keep fighting >The West is in economic crisis and can’t afford it anymore >Russia wins. Like, this plan is pretty fricking brutal, but I don’t think a lot of people are going to actually die from it. Also, Ukraine blocked water from Crimea for 8 years, so like, idk

      • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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        31 year ago

        Also, Ukraine blocked water from Crimea for 8 years

        With Russia providing an alternative water and electricity lines since pretty much the start of the takeover. It wasn’t much fun for the locals. Even with the much warmer climate.

        It’s currently around +1C during the day in Kiev, and colder during the night.