• @electrodynamica
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    212 years ago

    Tragic. Hot water is the easiest technological problem to solve. They have so much energy problems in Germany and it’s 100% political. Nuclear, Russia, USA, what a mess. Curious to hear what Germans actually think about all of it.

    • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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      162 years ago

      Not a German citizen but I live in Germany. Things are pretty fucked, and without a revolution they can only get worse. The energy situation is an own goal like you indicated, and agricultural policy is going the same direction. Foreign, financial, transportation, and health policies are all trainwrecks in motion. The Social Democrats are ostensibly the most powerful coalition partner in government but it’s the warhawk US influenced Greens and libertarian Free Democrats who are really in charge. Overall a majority of people support these very poor decisions, because of the way the media, especially the public broadcasters, report it.

      People were more or less ok with relatively high energy and food prices up to the last few months, as well as other high living costs, as many Germans are high earning labour aristocracy or petite bourgeois. Most people just ignore the very low wage earners because classes don’t exist in Germany apparently, and there’s government assistance for the poor on paper, and all the other excuses comfortable white people have to not care about the plight of the most exploited.

      Now with inflation rapidly accelerating (official figure is about 9%, so the real figure must be in the mid teens at least), gas being rationed in industrial applications and soon residential, unemployment sure to rise, wages flat… It takes a lot of shit for Germans to finally step up and try to change things, and that moment may come soon. Unfortunately those best placed to take advantage are reactionaries.

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        Dutch citizen. Similar situation, although we have natural gas as long as 100,000 people are willing to suffer from constant earthquakes.

        I don’t think a socialist revolution is coming here.
        Quite the opposite.
        The angry are drifting towards fanning a Western civil war on the side of the US Republicans.

    • Muad'Dibber
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      162 years ago

      I was just reading a few days ago about how germany had such bad energy planning, rejected nuclear for example, and are still heavily reliant on coal, and still have to buy a lot of power from other countries.

    • @HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
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      102 years ago

      German here, last week I actually went to a weekend fair in my hometown to have a few political (among other) discussions and no one said a single good word about either the German government, NATO, the USA, or Ukraine for that matter. This was bipartisan, I talked to other leftists, greens, social democrats, and conservatives, and all of them were of the opinion that Germany has maneuvered itself into a debacle. They were either in support of continuing nuclear energy or quick peace with Russia, and obviously no one endorsed mandatory cold showers. Moreover, many of them were already accepting the fact that this thing happened because of continuous provocation by the West. At least in this small town in the middle of the woods, Habeck and his gang won’t catch tailwinds any time soon