• booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        8 months ago

        Someone in the reddit thread guessed that maybe he answered something in a way that’s not just wrong but like super illegal in a “you’re stupid enough to be more of a liability than a help” kind of way. Like outright saying “yes i want to go overseas to murder people” sort of answers.

      • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        8 months ago

        Being low test scores isnt a permanent disqualifier, they can waiver you in if you ride the line. something medically most likely. Probably too much water in the brain

    • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      I know nothing about cars and electrical really, and I’m pretty bad at math and I got at least 75% of the questions correct.

      Did he even finish high school? He was 17 when he killed those two people, and I doubt he has done much learning since then.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Do they really use multiple choice for math questions in US education? That makes it very easy to guess the answers for some questions without fully performing any calculations.

      Also I’ve answered some of the questions on that website and I haven’t got a single one wrong yet. Is this really all you need, along with basic fitness, to become a marine? Because if so, I understand where all the stereotypes about them being crayon eaters come from.

      Okay I got my first question wrong. I answered with backsaw for the question: “Which handsaw should be used to make a rough cut with the grain in a thick board?” Correct answer was ripsaw. My hopes and dreams of being a US Marine are over😭.

      • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        8 months ago

        Bit idea, your score is so high it activates some sort of “Marine Prophecy Lore” about the chosen one, and you just keep trying to explain that multiple choice helps you guess, ala idiocracy.

          • whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            8 months ago

            Nah they just fast track you to certain roles. Pilots and intelligence officers and electrical work for tanks or whatever the fuck. I almost joined when I was a desperate 18 y/o trying to pay for college and after they saw my scores they were blowing my shit up trying to get me to do nuclear stuff (navy recruiter).

      • BountifulEggnog [she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        8 months ago

        I never saw multiple choice math problems in class/homework, but it seemed common for standardized testing like this, where only a small writing section would be manually graded. Everything else (on those tests) was multiple choice or similar.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          21
          ·
          8 months ago

          Damn was standardized testing in the US pushed so it would be an easier transition when you go to the ASVAB? I’m kinda having a revelation rn frfr thonk

        • VILenin [he/him]@hexbear.netM
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          15
          ·
          8 months ago

          The primary goal of standardized testing companies, like every other company, is profit, so they avoid having to spend money on someone manually grading something as much as possible.

      • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        You need to be able to run a 3 mile in a short period of time, i dont think most of us can do that here.

        I think you need to spend more time around american kids who arent the rich, white ones on reddit or here. They’ve been failed by our country and society so bad.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          15
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          It’s three miles in under 28 minutes on flat ground for the minimum required score, so nine minutes per mile pace will get you there comfortably. This is along with 4 pull ups or chin ups, and a one minute ten second plank.

          I think most of us under 28 years old could achieve that if we trained for it, it’s not like joining the Navy SEALS or anything like that.

          • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            8 months ago

            If you are diligent and smart enough to train to get your run time and fitness to that point youre likely diligent and smart enough to pass an easy military test.

            The people who are trying to join are not that and thats what im trying to point out.

            • whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              8 months ago

              Not disagreeing with you at all, but I wanted to add that I can say from personal experience that if you are serious about joining, recruiters will literally train you to make the minimum standards. Idk if all of them will, but I had gone to a handful, and a couple had potential recruits running laps around the building.

        • D61 [any]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          8 months ago

          Is that to get through MEPS or what the minimum PT standards are to stay in the Marines?

          For the Army, admittedly 20+ years ago, so long as you passed the criminal background check, the drug test, and the medical check by the time you got through the MEPS station it was assumed that Basic Training would be where you’d do the physical training to meet the minimum fitness standards.

          • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            8 months ago

            PT standards for Marines minimum. But even bare minimum is hard in US the obesity rate leader, not factoring in height and weight.

            The medical stuff has gotten way more complicated and they can track anything that was reported to a hospital.

          • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            I can barely get 2 miles in 22 minutes, im not a particularly out of shape person. i used to be able to do it under 14 mins but i was much younger and fitter

      • whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        8 months ago

        BobDole gave the most accurate answer here for how testing works that I saw. All of the specific skill (mechanical, electrical etc) based questions are just used for checking whether you would be proficient for a particular role. Your AFQT score is the “actual” score people will refer to when you say what you scored on the ASVAB. So you can miss all the electrical questions and still score a 99 essentially, so long as you get all the reading and math questions right.

      • mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I got everything right except in the cars and electronics sections, it’s not like they teach that shit in schools, but even then it was pretty easy to make an educated guess for several

        a ton of the answers throughout just sound intentionally dumb to help you in process of elimination. like who would choose the radiator on a car as part of lubrication or ignition?

    • BobDole [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      8 months ago

      So, the ASVAB is a 99 point scale. The number commonly given is the AFQT number, which is a representation of the percentile at which you score. In this example, that would be the 31st percentile, ie scores less than 69% of people who have taken the test, with the high score possible being the 99th percentile, ie scores better than than 99% of test takers. Now, the AFQT is based on a formula instead of actually keeping a running tally of everyone’s scores and comparing every new test, so it’s an approximation

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        Apparently they let people with a 21 or higher do a sort of prep program with extended consideration. If someone took it multiple times and wasn’t able to break the top 80%, that firmly puts them in the bottom quintile of “aptitude”.

    • VILenin [he/him]@hexbear.netM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      8 months ago

      His entire life he has expected everything to be handed to him on a silver platter, and having no qualifications whatsoever works just fine for him considering he’s set for life on ChudFundMe

    • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      8 months ago

      The standard for all the branches if pretty uniform also failing the asvab isnt uncommon because how fucked education and our society is in the US. I know were dunking but its legitimately a problem and we should pity that so many kids are even too stupid to join the military

  • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    8 months ago

    I knew someone who did recruiting and they said that kids would pretty regularly not pass the practice test and/or get single digit scores. They also said that every now and then theyd get someone who couldnt read at all.

  • roux [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    I’d like to reopen his case and this time around Kyle isn’t allowed to sit in the judge’s lap and purr while the judge gives him head pats and treats.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    8 months ago

    There are some real dumb mfers in the military that make you wonder how the fuck did they get in and goddamn he’s even dumber than them holy shit I’m dying.

    Honestly they should let him barely pass so he can get chewed up and washed out by the marines for the giggles.

    • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      I wonder if he didn’t like. (Try to) smuggle contraband into MEPS or tried to cheat the test. Both of those would be reasons to permanently invalidate someone; I’ve just never personally heard of them happening. Either way, I absolutely believe he’s this stupid.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        8 months ago

        I mean I’ve heard of inspector dictators at meps that’ll disqualify you just for having acne or other lame shit so he could’ve ran afoul of the ridiculous standards the military sets to filter people out.

        But I want to believe he did something astounding dumb during the test like try and have a copy of answers on his thigh then get banned for indecent exposure and public nudity for trying to get some answers to the mechanical section or some shit

  • dkr567 [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Didn’t know it’s actually possible for a person to be too fucking dumb for amerikkka military considering i met one of the dumbest fucking person (an American GI) when I was visiting occupied part of Korea long time ago.

    • Mokey [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      8 months ago

      One of the biggest problems the military has is that too many kids fail the ASVAB, I GUESS thats what happens when you defund education to enrich the elites oops

          • D61 [any]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            Yeah, I know, I’ve taken the test. It was mandatory in USA’s public schools in the 90’s. Probably still is.

            You get nothing for taking a test if you don’t plan on going into the military. It doesn’t count as a grade for a class, you get no cash from the recruiter who brings the tests for each correct answer.

            There’s literally no reason to try to make a good grade on this test for the majority of people who aren’t sitting in a recruiter’s office unless you just like having your phone ring off the hook to tell the recruiters to go fuck themselves.

            Fill in the dots, make a pretty picture and take a nap until time is called.

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Lol, the ASVAB is like a basic literacy test, and even then the military gives out frequent waivers for failing it.

    I read on Twitter, so a completely unsubstantiated rumor, that he acutally got disqualified becuase he sent his recruiter a video of him disassembling and reassembling an AR which the recruiter found threatening.

    • buh [she/her]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      8 months ago

      I read on Twitter, so a completely unsubstantiated rumor, that he acutally got disqualified becuase he sent his recruiter a video of him disassembling and reassembling an AR which the recruiter found threatening.

      He was probably expecting the recruiter to react like that drill instructor in forrest gump

      • SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        Notably, Forrest Gump was just good at assembling the weapon quickly, he didn’t say a bunch of unhinged shit while he did it.

  • booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    8 months ago

    Yo I didn’t even know that was possible. That’s genuinely impressive. Rittenhouse wtf are you doing you could’ve been the world’s purest himbo but instead you had to go and be a fascist bootlicking murderer

  • charlie [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    8 months ago

    His test score was far below the required minimum and was permanently disqualified from entering the USMC.

    Not like the ASVB means anything, it’s a bullshit test literally designed off of bullshit IQ tests. The marines do have the lowest entry requirements though.

  • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    8 months ago

    The fuck? He’s going to be the standard boot licking chud in 20 years saying ‘yep I woulda joined but <insert excuse here>’. I expected it to be out of pure cowardice and realization that the world he’s going into may shoot back at his pampered imperialist ass, not mere shitty education.