Dude, this screams of an attempt to discredit all information regarding the matter. Sure, headlines like this need to be considered, however, the information regarding the matter is not discredited because “OMG WEST POSTS ABOUT THIS”.
Russia has been the main aggressor now since the past 7 years according to Western fake news
Well lets examine some events here:
Invasion of Crimea
Mock Referendum in Crimea (I’m curious how someone could rationalise those questions)
Sponsoring separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk
Providing military equipment to the separatists
Unmarked soldiers
Downing of MH17
Rocketing Mariupol
Considering the points above, yes… Russia has been an aggressor for this period of time :)
and Crimea’s invasion has a bit different background behind it
Vague and doesn’t help anything… go on.
It is not like Putin woke up one day and announced “let’s go play boys!”
Sure, that’s not what I said but go on making stuff up, you’re good at it :)
Also, what is this crap about Donetsk and Luhansk having separatists?
Well… are they separatists? As in they want their own statehood?
If they announced their independence after Ukraine cutting off their water supply and all those shenanigans, why does Ukraine have an issue?
Well, I can see a nation taking issue when another state actor has decided to take advantage a ethnic minority and push them into some kind of crusade. Hence the RNU
“Providing military equipment to the separatists” is done by USA and NATO countries throughout, and we can discuss Azov Battalion in national military as well.
Yeah, I’m not going to disagree that this has happened but it shows that Russia didn’t want a peaceful solution that happened to have been the crux of a lot of pro-russian arguments here.
And we can talk about the RNU, come on dude, these guys are neo-nazis as well, for some reason you just want to only apply nazism to Ukraine. Donektsk Republic is Russian imperialist with some serious anti-ukrainian and genocidal elements to it.
Dude, this screams of an attempt to discredit all information regarding the matter. Sure, headlines like this need to be considered, however, the information regarding the matter is not discredited because “OMG WEST POSTS ABOUT THIS”.
Well lets examine some events here:
Considering the points above, yes… Russia has been an aggressor for this period of time :)
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Yeah… okay, feel free to say more bullshit :) https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/02/20/russias-anti-selfie-soldier-law-greatest-hits-and-implications/
Vague and doesn’t help anything… go on.
Sure, that’s not what I said but go on making stuff up, you’re good at it :)
Well… are they separatists? As in they want their own statehood?
Well, I can see a nation taking issue when another state actor has decided to take advantage a ethnic minority and push them into some kind of crusade. Hence the RNU
Yeah, I’m not going to disagree that this has happened but it shows that Russia didn’t want a peaceful solution that happened to have been the crux of a lot of pro-russian arguments here.
And we can talk about the RNU, come on dude, these guys are neo-nazis as well, for some reason you just want to only apply nazism to Ukraine. Donektsk Republic is Russian imperialist with some serious anti-ukrainian and genocidal elements to it.
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How is it dishonest? it relates directly to how Russia has been actively involved with their military and with boots on the ground from 2014 onwards.
The link you provided I am not disagreeing with, however there are recent reports in Kharkiv that outline their presence.
All that you, Gun, Yogthos have posted have been in bad faith and mostly unsubstantiated shit with usual ad-hominem.
You have been fun though :) I am still looking for most of my points (I do have to reply to an economic one) being refuted properly :)
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