• protist
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    John V. Walsh seems to have a boner for everything China and Russia, and a hate boner for the US. Apparently the US is even responsible for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

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        What coup? Yanukovich was removed by the democratically-elected Ukrainian Parliament in a floor vote after he fled the country. Ukrainians are the ones who did all of this. What do you think the US did? I know what Russia did, starting here:

        The protests were sparked by President Viktor Yanukovych’s sudden decision not to sign the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement, instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. Ukraine’s parliament had overwhelmingly approved of finalizing the Agreement with the EU, but Russia had put pressure on Ukraine to reject it.

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            The choice Yanukovich made was in direct contradiction with what the democratically-elected Ukrainian Parliament had been “overwhelmingly” working toward. You think Yanukovich unilaterally scrapping that work, ignoring the will of the Ukrainian people, and reorienting toward Russia was beneficial, so how was it beneficial?

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            Still waiting for a description of US involvement from someone

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              Still waiting for a description of US involvement from someone.

              Dawg it’s in the fucking Wikipedia article. Your own side admits U$ involvement in the Maidan.

              How do you not know your own lines?

              *You got banned so I can’t see your replies in the grad. It’s in the “revolution of dignity” wiki article.

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                They would get reprimanded by their superior officer for admitting it. They probably have a list on their cubicle wall of what they are and are not allowed to say.

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                It’s nowhere in the Wikipedia article though. I really am asking for any info at all on this, and don’t get why no one is giving me any even though everyone here thinks it’s so obvious

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              The Nuland call where they discuss who their pick for the leader of Ukraine is, and the operations they are undertaking to put them into power.

              You’re a fucking moron. Willingly ignorant, or purposefully cruel. 5 minutes of research could answer your question.

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          but Russia had put pressure on Ukraine to reject it.

          I can’t go into a Pizza Hut without being upsold garlic bread. Of course Russia pressured Ukraine to accept deals in it’s favour.

          Do you think Russia was the only one putting pressure on Ukraine to sign an agreement? Forget about all the rest of it for a minute: do you really think the US and EU abstain from making any attempts to ‘encourage’ others to sign their agreements?

          The NATO alliance turned prosperous Libya to rubble for the mere suggestion that it would start trading in is own currency.

          (PS Don’t worry everyone, I don’t really go to pizza hut! The local pizza place has compromising photos of me and the one that pizza hut has of me shitting on a certain famous portrait just doesn’t scare me as much. Release it, I tell them, you can’t scare me into buying a salad bowl.)

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        Fox News is pretty pro-Russia and often anti-US foreign policy these days, you’re pretty far off base

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            Let me guess, you think Russia’s doing a great thing in Ukraine

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                Russia is far right lol

                I’m concerned you think Russia is still communist based on your post history…

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                    How is Ukraine fascist? Do you think Russia is fascist? Do you think Russia is communist?

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      Whether or not they are responsible, they are still funding it and providing arms. I don’t see any boner in the article, in my opinion it is argued well and without bias. This provocation is good for absolutely no one (apart from maybe the leading political powers and military industrial lobby). If something like this goes off, it will just mean death and destruction across the globe. To me, it seems like this is caused by the US’ exceptionalism. They feel they can put military bases wherever they want, regardless of how it affects those areas. Surely, that is not fair.