• geogle@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I hope no reputable school is doing that badly these days but point taken

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      My take-home was $1700-2100/mo after taxes and fees depending on whether I was teaching that semester (teaching paid less). We were paid just above minimum wage (at the time $15.50/h, CA MW = $15/h) on the basis of 8 h/day, 5 days/wk, 52 wks/y (lmao). Rent split 4 ways was ~$1500 per person, and that was the lowest of anyone I knew. UC Berkeley PhD 2022.

      Edit: Checked my admission letter, turns out it was actually $15.50/h. Also got decent health insurance, at least until UCPath fucked it up. Livin’ the high life.

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      When I was working on mine I was making $1800 and rent was only ~$720 for a 2 bed. I think that included pet rent too.

      The mental toll however…(Hundreds of thousands of dollars in insurance claims later, probably more)

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        2 months ago

        I think that included pet rent too.

        It included the what now?

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          Yeah so you have to pay an extra monthly “rent” PER PET (not to mention the extra deposits! Yes plural)

          I was looking at a place the other day. 2 bedroom apartment in a shitty area. I didn’t take notes on all the costs but this is what I have:

          Application Fee: $50 per applicant

          Rent: $1450 $2115

          Security Deposit: $1450 $2115

          Nonrefundable Pet Deposit per pet: $300

          Pet Deposit per pet: $200

          Pet Rent per pet: $25

          No utilities included

          Edit: misremembered the rent by a lot

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          Its not uncommon for apartment complexes to charge another small monthly fee to have a pet (usually specifically a cat or dog) in the unit. I’m also paying a pet rent and its like $20-30 where I live. Is it BS? Definitely.

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      Unfortunately this is still the case in all the universities I know, especially in fine arts and humanity, many of the positions are even unfunded. Many students need to sublease their living room or live in a single bedroom in a house, with shared kitchen and bathroom.

      I think many less-well-funded students literally cannot afford a studio or 1B, because the rent will be higher than their salary. Even for CS, math, and bio, the rent of a 1B will still be very close to their stipend.

      For reference, I work in the department with the highest pay in my entire school, and my school is an extremely well-funded Tier 1 ~ Tier 2 school in the U.S. I make less than 2k8 after tax, and 1B at the outskirt of my city (40 mins walk to university) cost around 2k2 per month. Of course, an rat-free apartment will cost much more.

      Even for these extremely well-funded departments in extremely well-funded schools, almost all of the PhD students are still paid under the living wage. See https://csstipendrankings.org/ .

      To summarize: of the 60 schools listed,only 1/3 are paying their CS PhD students a living wage. Schools not paying a living wage include Havard, MIT, Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, and many more.

      This is why you see so many grad worker strike in recent years.

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        also why the bulk of those students in those subjects come almost exclusively from wealthy families…

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        yeah i was in grad school 10 years ago. I made about $1000/mo, and my rent was about 900. After food and other necessities, I was losing about 300-400 a month.

        If i was in school today, I’m confident I’d be making 1200/mo and my rent would be about $2000.