• Julianus@lemmy.ml
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    …with a weaker bluff. It’s childish, like the toothless sanctioning of Biden and Hilary Clinton. Or threatening international volunteers for the Ukrainians with legal action, while inviting Syrian mercenaries at the time. The noises coming out of the Kremlin have become farcical.

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      Nationalizing stuff is most definitely not a bluff. There is absolutely no reason for them not to do this, what’s the west going to do in response exactly?

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        Never invest there again. This will hurt Russia long after Putin’s gone.

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          The west was never going to invest there again anyways. Russia’s future is going to be aligned with China and India, the two biggest growing economies in the world.

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            Yes, as a client state to China, as North Korea is now. And when China and India flare up, Russia will be forced to choose China. Their options only become more narrow, so long as Putin remains in control.

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              You continue to exhibit stunning lack of understanding of geopolitics or even basic geography. Comparing Russia to DPRK is beyond hilarious, but you go on further with the deranged notion that there’s going to be some China and India flare up when it’s becoming clear that India is patching things up with China right now seeing western insanity. India is currently exploring how to use yuan to pay Russia for energy and just had talks with China about resolving their border dispute.

              https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254958.shtml

              https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3170314/china-india-border-row-signs-thaw-fresh-round-talks-analyst

              If you ever decide to look at a map, then it’ll become crystal clear to you that India’s interests lie with Russia and China.

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                India has ongoing ideological differences with China though, no? Modi doesn’t seem very friendly to China from what I’ve seen.

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                  I expect that pragmatism will ultimately win over ideology. India increasingly sees US as an unstable partner, and US just threatened India with sanctions for continuing trade with Russia. India understands that China will likely be the biggest winner in all this and that BRI will become a huge market that they will want to be a part of.

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                I love your certainty in your ignorance. Like, of course, I’m not sailing that way, because the earth is flat. It’s not like China and India aren’t skirmishing on their border, are they? China and Russia would be soon too, as well, for water. But current events are placing Russia firmly inside China’s orbit. So it won’t be much of a skirmish, but a capitulation.

                Climate change has forced China to deplete the South China Sea and is now scouring the world. I would not want to share a border with China, at this point, no matter how much I needed the cash. Russia is definitely going to be a second class citizen in this exchange.

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                  Ah yes my ignorance says the guy who thinks Russia is like North Korea and that India and China are going to have a flare up. Russia is certainly going to be no worth in that relationship than Canada is sharing a border with the US. You keep on living those fantasies while you can though.

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                    Isn’t it, though? Both are failed states that fall back to cries of nuclear weapons when frustrated. Even India and Pakistan are acting more mature these days. And you better believe that if Canada couldn’t keep it’s shit together that border would be a liability, too. China is massively annoyed that their buffer, North Korea, is smuggling so much meth into China. Either China will begin to encroach on Russian resources, or Russian economic refugees will being flooding China. Probably both.

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          Just saying, the Western sanctions that started this economic battle have already put Western companies off investing in Russia, for a long time even after the sanctions end. That was their intention

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            I recall what started the economic battle was Putin invading his neighbor, Ukraine. This has blown past whatever BS he said about the provinces he destabilized and led to a direct attack on the sovereignty of said country. Imagine the wealth that might have been preserved, if only Putin could keep his second-rate army within his borders.

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          Why do you think Microsoft not investing in a place would hurt people there?

          The company has a history of monopolistic anti-consumer practices (as decided by the US supreme court in 2001 and by the european commission in 2004, and they’re facing another complaint now), anti-worker cartel behaviour (settled charges in 2010, more charges in 2013, and a lawsuit in 2015 was dropped because of timing), and directly attacking public interest technology like open source (a small selection of examples).

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            Those monopolistic practices have created a software ecosystem that’s dominated by their OS. They aren’t the only solution anymore, but they are still the largest.