The Kirov class, Soviet designation Project 1144 Orlan (Russian: Орлан, lit. ‘sea eagle’), is a class of nuclear-powered guided-missile battlecruisers of the Soviet Navy and Russian Navy, the largest and heaviest surface combatant warships (i.e. not an aircraft carrier or amphibious assault ship) in operation in the world. Among modern warships, they are second in size only to large aircraft carriers; they are similar in size to a World War I-era battleship. Defence commentators in the West often refer to these ships as battlecruisers - due to their size and general appearance. The Soviet classification of the ship-type is “heavy nuclear-powered guided-missile cruiser” (Russian: тяжёлый атомный ракетный крейсер).

History

Originally built for the Soviet Navy, the class is named after the first of a series of four ships constructed, Admiral Ushakov, named Kirov until 1992. Original plans called for construction of five ships.

The lead ship of the class, Kirov, was laid down in March 1974 at Leningrad’s Baltiysky Naval Shipyard, launched on 27 December 1977 and commissioned on 30 December 1980. When she appeared for the first time, NATO observers called her BALCOM I (Baltic Combatant I). She is presently laid up and was slated to be scrapped in 2021.

Design

The class was originally conceived to counter the U.S. Navy’s submarines with its large payload of SS-N-14 anti-submarine missiles, and later evolved to carry twenty P-700 Granit anti-ship missiles for countering the U.S. carrier strike groups. Ultimately the class were intended to operate alongside new nuclear-powered aircraft carriers for global power projection, however these carriers never came to fruition.

Weapon systems

The Kirov class’s main weapons are 20 P-700 Granit (SS-N-19 Shipwreck) missiles mounted in deck, designed to engage large surface targets. Air defense is provided by twelve octuple S-300F launchers with 96 missiles and a pair of Osa-MA batteries with 20 missiles each. Pyotr Velikiy carries some S-300FM missiles and is the only ship in the Russian Navy capable of ballistic missile defence.[2] The ships had some differences in sensor and weapons suites: Kirov came with Metel anti-submarine warfare (ASW) missiles, while on subsequent ships these were replaced with 3K95 Kinzhal (Russian: Кинжал – dagger) surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems. The Kinzhal installation is in fact mounted further forward of the old SS-N-14 mounting, in the structure directly behind the blast shield for the bow mounted RBU ASW rocket launcher. Kirov and Frunze had eight 30 mm (1.18 in) AK-630 close-in weapon systems, which were supplanted with the Kortik air-defence system on later ships.

Other weapons are the automatic 130 mm (5 in) AK-130 gun system (except in Kirov which had two single 100 mm (4 in) guns instead), 10 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo/missile tubes (capable of firing RPK-2 Vyuga ASW missiles on later ships) and Udav-1 with 40 anti-submarine rockets and two sextuple RBU-1000 launchers.

Russia is developing a new anti-ship missile to equip Kirovs called the 3M22 Tsirkon, which is capable of traveling at hypersonic speeds out to at least 620 mi (540 nmi; 1,000 km).

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  • Lerios [hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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    not to self-aggrandise here but i have gotten SO good at doing nothing at my bullshit job. i read and steal period products and print character sheets for free. my cookie clicker score is insane.

    BUT, the managers are coming over from fr*nce tomorrow so i have to do a bunch of shit tonight to make it look like i’ve been doing my job the whole damn time, and i have to come in early unpaid and probably sit through a really annoying meeting about targets and how we’re falling short of them. truly i suffer more than jesus france-cool

    the upside is that one of the two managers is approximately our age and he pays for our shit when we’re together, so we’re hoping we can turn the two of them against each other and get the cooler one to take us drinking on his company card afterwards.

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      Based. I have a couple cool supervisors at work too. One will hang out at the register with me talking about movies, history, and politics for hours if we can get away with it. He’s sort of a lib (was obsessing over the trump trial but I get it, it’s pretty funny) but he’s also just kinda floated through life without formulating any firm political ideology and I took it slow trying to educate him a bit and just out of shear respect for my robust historical knowledge I think I have at least turned him into a bit of a comrade.

      The other one I helped get a place in my apartment complex and he’s kinda average redneck but the cool kind and now he literally refers to me as comrade sincerely. He also gives me rides to and from work all the time since we work nights together which is based. We also go to the bar before work sometimes to play pool and have a beer.

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    I had my annual “don’t share technology you work with with the enemies of US” training at work today

    Any Iranians wanting to get their hands on pytest?

  • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    >be me

    >make friends with a cis guy cause i need more cis friends

    >ask if he's cisgender cisgender or transgender cisgender

    >he doesnt understand

    >i pull out an illustrated transsexual kinsey scale explaining what is cisgender cisgender and what is transgender cisgender

    >he laughs and says "im cisgender ma'am"

    >ask if he'd press the button to instantly change sex

    >she's transgender cisgender

    madeline-deadpan

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    Part of my problem with the “the left has no gurus to help lost young people” line is that I never did want a guru and the relative lack of them is what lead me to these schools of political analysis and philosophy to begin with.

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      Yeah like I got here from an entire upbringing of distrusting adults and wanting to know for myself

      Still, the left needs goons and himbos too.

      “Yea, that’s right boss comrade!”

      • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        “To me it seems perfectly simple—but then, I’m not well educated. It seems like there are only two classes, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie And whoever isn’t on one side is on the other”

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    I have only just realised the jagoff emoji is a hand wanking, somehow I thought it was clutching a tissue in a tragic, self-pitying way with a similar vibe to liberalism

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    Currently worried that social skills are only learned when you hit certain ages, a la Pokemon moves. Like, I had to learn how to initiate conversations at Level 12, but I didn’t, so now I don’t get to, unless this metaphor contains a Move Tutor of some kind.

    I see other people who are close with each other. It’s literally like, how do I learn to do that

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      I believe that social skills are a misnomer. I don’t think friendships make or break on skills like “handling it when two people talk at the same time” (level 33) or “finding good souvenirs” (level 42). I’m a big proponent of thinking that socializing is supposed to be fun. It’s what people do to pass the time. I think a lot of gunk builds up in your mind when you start worrying about your listening to talking ratio and reading their facial expressions for insight into their emotional state. I think big signs like “please stop talking to me” and “I feel uncomfortable” are not hard to spot and adjust to accordingly. I think a lot of what people like about you aren’t the things that you are directly aware of and controlling. Therefore, the more neurotic you get and the more tightly you hold onto the reigns of what you do control, the more you will squeeze out the parts of yourself that effortlessly shine through that resonate with others.

      That’s why something like feeling unworthy is unattractive: you’ll try that much harder to put EVs into spdef because your spdef IV is 13 when you have an adamant nature, close combat, and a 135 attack stat while their opponent has a normal type and an ice type. Like comrade, take off that eviolite, eat a rare candy, eat this carton of mixed berries (grepa first then kelpsy), put on these choice specs, and meet me by the Pokemon center in an hour.

      If there are skills to cultivate, it’s the bravery to feel vulnerable/open up to people, choosing the right people to open up to, creating and maintaining boundaries, and cultivating a willingness to fuck around and find out. Otherwise, it’s just sharing what you like with others and unlearning everything you thought you knew - it’s not going to save you.

      • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        If there are skills to cultivate, it’s the bravery to feel vulnerable/open up to people, choosing the right people to open up to, creating and maintaining boundaries, and cultivating a willingness to fuck around and find out. Otherwise, it’s just sharing what you like with others and unlearning everything you thought you knew - it’s not going to save you.

        this was very beautiful and insightful comrade <3

        • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Thank you, comrade. I’m rooting for you so much you don’t even know. I’ll be minding my own business and go “I hope that wojak guy finds someone nice.” soviet-heart

          Total aside, nearly irrelevant to everything, but a bit of commentary on how what you think you know’s not going to save you: you should see someone experienced in BJJ spar with someone completely new. Really any combat sport would give the same message. It happens over and over - your instincts betray you. I’ll let a newbie start in top of mount (making them start on bottom is an easy way to overwhelm them and not let them work), which is a very controlling position.

          If I give the slightest jostle with my arm, they’ll lurch forward for it. So I’ll give them a slight bump at the hips, they’ll slam their hands on the ground, and their arm is in perfect position to catch so I can roll them over. It’s not their fault, it’s not like they have any reason to know any better; nor do they stand much of a chance against me with a decade of experience. But it’s always a fun mental exercise to think “They’re trying to control something they have no hope of controlling. Where else in life am I trying to exert control that I don’t have?” When I go to a judo class and I stick my arm out as I’m falling, it’s the same thing. But then it gets deep into the woowoo because it’s not just that I’m trying to control it, it’s that I’m not accepting that I’ve been thrown. Because I found this one tiktok one time about accepting your fate. It really scratched the itch for me. I strive to always be accepting what is and either use tactics (like the video) or play around with it he-laughed.

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      You just gotta keep doing the thing until you develop the skill. Part of it is finding people who are on your level, which may be sometimes out of your control, but in general you gotta treat it like a craft or skill you are trying to cultivate. The negativity only keeps you from progressing.

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    The Nuclear Book by Annie Jacobsen is so bad. Oh my god. The main premise is the minute by minute run down of a North Korean nuclear icbm reaching the continental US. And why would they do this? Because they are ruled by an insane, totalitarian, hermit family.

    Are you fucking serious?

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        It came out recently, she made the circuits in political and news talk shows like Democracy Now. It is this super serious step-by-step walkthrough of a bolt out of blue attack (unexpected nuclear missile/bomb attack against US). She goes minute by minute. I’m “17 minutes 30 seconds” and “18 minutes” into the attack. An ICBM is calculated to reach the U.S between 26 and 30 minutes depending on which country is launching it. In this case it was North Korea. So at 17-18 minutes, the president is notified and possibly evacuate into a bunker. Several other federal officials are also being whisked off to mountain bunkers to lead in the subsequent aftermath. Even though she continuously reminds us that it is fundamentally a world destroying event and the immediate mass casualties and subsequent death are beyond comprehension.

        She tries to make it sound super scary (and the reality is actually world rending) but she writes a script or scenario that these military officers would run the President through and I just keep picturing Joe Biden or Donald Trump asking these questions or responding to military advice. You also gotta laugh cause if this scenario truly happened, military officers are supposed to explain to the president that he is the only one capable of making the decision (and would carry all of the criminal/world ending consequences), they [the officers] are merely communicating to the chain of command what the options are.

        The world has not ended because no one is truly that much of a believer in whatever bullshit ideological system they have. So they can draw all of these insane plans but they’ll never use them. Only ONE American military official ever commented on the utter horror and disgust he felt when they concluded drawing up these plans.

        I’ve been getting this sense of foreboding from the Israel situation. I think if there’s anyone insane enough to attack with a nuclear bomb, it is Israel.

        The problem I have is that the North Korea is total bullshit and reactionary propaganda, so I’m blown away at how meticulously you could research this topic and also be like, so anyways, this mad hermit crazy person will launch an icbm and then submarines out of nowhere.

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          Even though she continuously reminds us that it is fundamentally a world destroying event and the immediate mass casualties and subsequent death are beyond comprehension.

          What, like, one nuke? It’d suck but unless there’s a general exchange it’s not going to end the world.

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            One nuke would activate the U.S’s hair-trigger and launch on warning operating plans, which would try to “jam the president”, that is, convince him into responding with a proportional or even larger response. So a single ICBM would alllw for military chiefs to tell the president to attack from a list of options each more destructive. In responding to North Korea, the fallout lands in China, killing between 300 and 700 million Chinese. The “simulation” has the Sec Def notifying the Chinese government only for them to say tha a nuclear launch and subsequent fallout, would be seen as an act of war and would therefore lead to retaliation.

            A single nuke could cause a chain of events that destroys most of the world

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              In responding to North Korea, the fallout lands in China, killing between 300 and 700 million Chinese

              that’s a bit far fetched if literally nothing else happened, but a US launch toward DPRK almost has to be interpreted as a possible attack on the PRC and starts the crescendo

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      I looked her up, apparently she does a lot of research on fucked up things the CIA does but she also wrote episodes for the Jack Ryan TV show. So she’s your box standard white supremacist who treats American imperialism as true crime documentaries. Very riveting, I’ll make sure to bully people who read this book.