100lbs of rice and 50lbs of beans just fucking destroyed. These blighted assholes are really making me rethink my “no-kill” trap policy.
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Mice and Beans
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I sympathize with the no-kill attitude but you kinda have to kill stuff that would otherwise infest your home.
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this is extremely reddit
we need a conversion rate bot NOW
Thanks, genuinely appreciate the conversion rate. I had no idea if it was a lot until now.
fuck you imperial is better, base-12 for life
get on the duodecimal system our hands are literally made for counting in twelves
look at this virgin metric user trying to split into quarters and thirds get those fucking decimal points outta here coño
Imperial would be better if it actually was base 12. Instead, it’s base 12, base 16, base 3, base 4, and whatever the fuck else. It’s awful and you know it.
3 and 4 are divisions of twelve try again
next time you order donuts or bagels tell them you dont want a dozen because its twelve youd actually only want 10 nerd
Oh so there’s 12 teaspoons to a tablespoon (3)? 12 tablespoons to a cup (16)? 12 feet to a yard (3)? 12 yards to a mile (1760)? Ok how about 12³ yards to a mile (12³=1728)? 12 ounces to a pound (16)? 12 cups to a pint (2)? 12 cups to a gallon (16)? 12 fluid ounces to a pint (20)?
The only actual conversion between any two units that is 12 in Imperial is feet to inches. teaspoon to ¼ cup doesn’t count because that’s a fraction of a unit (¼). It’s 48 tsp to cup.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the number 12 more than 10. But Imperial barely fucking uses it.
hold out your hand
see the knuckles on your finger? 3? good.
see the knuckles across your hand in a row? 4? good.
Count them all up. 12, right?
things are broken up into 3s, 4s, 6s, and 12s because they break up into 3rds, quarters, and halves like that easily and you can use your knuckles on one hand to count them and on another hand use your fingers to keep track of the multiples all the way up to 60 very easily
the imperial system is literally based on human anatomy for easy counting, division, and practical maths for simple tasks like low measurements youd use in baking, carpentry, and so on. you know, the stuff everyday working people do regularly. there is a reason this duodecimal system goes back to before roman times and transcends culture, even the chinese would count this way back in the day (and some still do)
adopt the system of the working person. use imperial
Holy fuck I already told you I like the number 12 more than 10.
What you’re saying is great. But it would be cool if Imperial actually consistently used 12 instead of using it - and I can’t stress this enough - once. Can you tell me how many feet are in a ¼ mile off the top of your head? If you can, most Americans can’t. Most American don’t even know that the number of feet in a full mile is 5280 for some fucking reason. That’s not a power of 12. In fact in terms of multiples of 12 it’s 12×440. What the fuck? That’s not even like, 12×12×3 or something even remotely reasonable. There’s a multiple of 11 in there. That’s a fucking nightmare!
And with cooking it gets to the point where you’re just bombarded with fractions and 3s and 4s and 8s and sixteenths and good god it’s a mess. Stop kidding yourself. A measuring system with the consistency of metric but based on base 12 would truly be better than both systems, and imperial isn’t even close.
Might be worth getting some large containers that they can’t chew through to put that much dry food in?yeah I obviously fucked up my storage solutions. They tore through my entire pantry so thats going to be a lot of containers.
I feel you man I live in the country and all my shit is in plastic bins because of mice. Sorry you had to find out the hard way.
And yes you have to kill them or you will get infested. Use A LOT of snap traps. I have 10 in my attic and one in every cabinet. Poison baits hurt raptors and should be illegal tbh.
Get these
And whatever you do, don’t get glue traps, trust me. Snap traps are kill-humane as they kill instantly.
while you are rethinking your storage situation / strategy, i just want to give an endorsement for Cambro polycarbonate food grade containers. they make containers and lids that seal tight, last forever, and at volumes ranging from “i’m a normal kitchen human doing normal things” to “me and my several large adult sons will rule these wastelands with bellies full of grains and pulses” or maybe “this is for a commercial kitchen” i suppose. they are usually stackable and color options with transparent sides, usually with unit markings to tell you how much you’ve got left. stg, i do not have an affiliate link, lol.
if you’re in North America, webstaurantstore.com usually has the widest selection, a powerful search tool and sometimes insanely cheap prices, but their costs for shipping are buttcheeks for residential addresses so it’s a bit of a wash. i would make an account there regardless and request a free catalogue, because they are fun to look through. amazon can occasionally have some good deals on Cambro stuff, but their algorithm is shit and it will try to steer you towards knockoffs. sometimes i find the thing on webstaurantstore and then search for it on amazon using specific terminology. i like squared sides (as opposed to round) because i’m an efficiency asshole, but round bottoms have their uses if you want to occaisionally use smaller (~4-6 qt) containers for mixing ingredients.
not even Rat’xal, Lord of 10,000 Rats, could defy the sanctity of my grain and lentil storage situation. though there is a cat around here too, but the only thing he catches is naps.
not even Rat’xal, Lord of 10,000 Rats, could defy the sanctity of my grain and lentil storage situation
You’ve found the way to ward off Pete Buttigieg!??
Cambros fuckin rule. All my grains and beans are in Cambros. There’s a local restaurant supply store open to the public and I stock up when they’re on sale (both containers and dry food)
I would make an exception to the no-kill rule tbh. Or get a pet snake and let it roam around the cupboards frequently enough that mice will smell trouble.
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OP has posted before about how his cat is “one of the pack” of dogs.
I’ve actually got three cats but my mouser has gotten fat and lazy, the kitten thinks they’re just toys to be chased but not killed, and the other one just doesn’t care unless it runs right in front of him.
I would simply come to an agreement with the mice and have them raid other people’s rice and bean stash
try putting more skill points in Nature and taking Animal Friend spell
OP rolls for their Animal Handling check…
The mice are now uniting with the bugs in their struggle against the food hoarder
This is a very tenuous alliance.
At the capitalist bug farm, mice were always getting into our waxworms, because they buildings were poorly built, they used poorly-sealed kitty litter boxes to grow the waxworms in, and the racks easily allowed the mice to climb up (partly because of escaped-worm cocoons on them).
We’d see them running across the main floor all the time. It was very common to open up a box after 6 weeks and see a litter of baby mice inside, and barely any waxworms. Maybe one out of every 50 was like that.
the spirit of stalin acting through mice
" Go forth my comrades…" no mercy for modern day kulaks
Outsource your dirty work, get a cat.
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Idk, both my cats are useless lol.
New mouse policy:
What did you have it in?
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Thank you comrade
get some kind of lockable heavy wooden chest for dry goods if you have the space for it. Cabinets ain’t to be trusted if there’s rodents about
EDIT: Sorry, shoulda read the thread first.
bad policy
Bucket. 20oz plastic soda bottle. Stiff wire or rod - the rodents should be able to walk on the wire/rod. Drill holes the size of the wire near the top of the bucket (1/2" or so from the top) opposite one another. Drill through the center of the bottle cap and the bottom of the bottle - wiggle the drill a bit to make the holes bigger/jankier. Wire goes in one drilled bucket hole, through the bottle, then out the other. The bottle should spin freely. If it doesn’t, embiggen the holes in the bottle slightly. Provide ramps to the wire. Peanut butter on bottle. Rodent gets up, high wires to the bottle, gets dumped into the bucket. You can put something in the bucket to make it harder for them to escape (powder or some shit, dunno), or a few inches of water to inhumanely drown them.
There are bucket lid kits on amazon that prevents all that DIY nonsense. Regardless, this bucket is a mouse killing machine and you can just dump it out. Once you get your mouse population down you can go back to single trappings.
I started like you. The first mouse I ever caught got a night in the dumpster outside with a piece of bread covered in peanut butter. After they murdered my water cooled 2080 gaming rig I turned into a genocidal maniac. I would try to end them with my bare fucking hands.
If anyone asks those mice if they’d rather spend the night with a man or a hexabearian, those mice had better say a man.
Godspeed.
