F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.

Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.

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    “I will impregnate her” -Elon Musk

    “She will be raped by Venezuelans” -David Rubin

    “Children’s Genitals!” -Megyn Kelly

    Weird…

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    If they didn’t want her to voice her opinion they shouldn’t have spent a week making fake ai images of her endorsing Trump. They forced her hand; she could either allow her likeness to be appropriated for a political cause she doesn’t agree with, or make her true opinion known.

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      Could just as easily have been a democrat trying to draw her endorsement. Its silly to point blame like that.

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        I love how you obviously have no idea what’s been going on the past week, but you still felt the need to try and defend Republican weirdos.

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          Not defending republicans. Why couldn’t some sneaky democrat realize they could bait her into it with AI art.

          Trump didnt make the art. He is an idiot for sharing it though. Can’t be too hard to get him to retweet something stupid though.

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              The point I’m making is the art could have come from anyone. Why not a troll or shitposters? 4chan has done stuff like this for literal decades.

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                Yes, technically it could have come from anyone.
                So let’s give the wannabe fascist republicans the benefit of the doubt, because that has historically been a very double plus good idea to do for authoritarians, and only good things will come from doing so…

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                  I don’t think this makes trump look good either way, I’m not defending him.

                  Either he’s an idiot who got tricked into posting something he should have known not to, or he’s an idiot who has idiot friends who sent him something and he posted it.

                  I thought she was going to sue him for it.

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                  Never said I was defending what trump did. Just said he could have been duped into it. I actually thought shed sue him over it but I guess the endorsement works.

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            This is such a hilarious conspiracy theory that person has.

            Here is what happened: Leon put out an image generator that would create images of real people. Donald is desperate for attention. Donald wanted to fantasize what if A-list celebrities liked him, so he typed it in. He then shared it publicly.

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              You have a source that says Donald trump made the images with his own prompts? Why wouldnt he be sued for that. Reposting someone else’s images was already risky enough.

              I’ll believe it though if you know where I can read about that.

              Not a conspiracy theory by the way, was just saying ai art from the internet could come from anyone, and shitposters and trolls exist. Theres even a professional board for it called 4chan.

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          I’m calling trump an easily manipulable idiot, not defending him.

          Who did make the taylor swift art anyways?

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        I’m certain Dems did ask her for endorsement, there is no way they wouldn’t have, right? But they didn’t make weird AI images, did they? So it is wildly different and deserves blame and criticism, doesn’t it?

        Donald is like the stereotypical pathetic incel stalker pasting his face over a boyfriend in a photo to add to a weird little shrine. Just really fucking weird and creepy.

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          So let’s say I made the AI images. And posted them on republican forums knowing they would eat them up. Keep sending them to bigger and bigger names, make a not farm to make the posts visible.

          Finally I get the big cheetoh to repost it. Boom, I a democrat, have instigated Taylor Swift into endorsing the Democrats.

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            Do it, then, wreck their campaign by getting Donald to post more weird AI images that force other celebrities to endorse the Dems.

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    Republicans: Cancel culture is ruining the country!

    Also Republicans: You endorsed Harris? Kiss your Republican record sales goodbye!

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        … of non-autistic humans. Which is why I like systems not reliant on what somebody considers kind.

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          Wait what? I can’t tell if you’re serious, but if so, I’d love to see research on the first part of your comment. If you were joking please feel free to ignore me.

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            No, just experience.

            “Normal” people lie and bend morals so naturally that they don’t see it. The discourse in their social bubble is more important than reality for them. They can say and believe absolutely contradictory things, which just have to be accepted as true by their social environment.

            How can there be any research on this? It’s literally normal. It’s how political agitation works.

            About autistic people not doing this - autistic people take discourses even more radically, but that kinda helps, because you have to check yourself for your perceptions to work with the real world at all. Also due to the effort needed to switch between various discourses, which happens naturally for normals, autistic people notice the fact that they switch.

            Normals don’t need that and thus can live all their life in common dreams.

            I think I could find something more scientific to read on these things, but why would I really, it’s obvious.

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              One of my favorite pass times is asking ChatGPT my hypotheses with prompts to search the web for academic sources (the free version is limited, but it works for a good few prompts over a few hours and let’s you know when the cool down period is over).

              Any time we make claims, it’s very likely at this stage of human technology that there’s research on it you can access and hone ideas around. Anecdotes can be really powerful in driving our interests and pursuit of knowledge, but I think we should always check in and be aware we’re biased, fallible, sometimes hypocritical creatures.

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                I’m not sure if you are reinforcing the request for a source or agreeing with me, ha-ha.

                I’ll try. But my own experience with using those chatbots to find sources is not satisfactory, but then I was trying to find sources on very specific things.

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                  I was reinforcing the request. I did a couple general prompts with your claim and think there’s some research to support it, though it’s not much; and, as with anything, there’s nuance.

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            Impaired social abilities mean smaller attack surface for propaganda and groupthink.

            Seems obvious, that’s the main thing autism is, that’s why it’s called a u t i s m .

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      No no no, you see, when the left does it, it’s cancel culture and literally communism. When the right does it, it’s voting with your dollar, literally capitalism. Not comparable at all!!

      /s

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      Which is hilarious since the main source of income for musicians ever since streaming took off is live shows and merch… albums are a vehicle to drive attendance at concerts, for which Swift is pretty good at packing stadiums full of people. Even if she loses 30% of her listeners, she’ll still sell out concerts and total revenue would likely be about the same because those seats will be taken up by other fans who would have otherwise missed out on the sold-out show.

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    I must admit that I don’t get, why it’s such a big deal, that Taylor Swift supports Harris. But seeing the meltdown of the right wing grifters does put a smile on my face.

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    On the flip side, imagine voting for someone because Ben Shapiro is doing so.

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    The party of rapists, child molesters and murderers is mad at Taylor Swift. She must’ve done something right. 🤔

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    The argument that “you shouldn’t vote for someone just because your favorite celebrity endorses them” seemed like a much more credible argument before the 2016 election when the winning candidate essentially won by literally being a celebrity.

    Prior to 2016, Trump was probably best known for being the host of a reality TV show, and being a “businessman”. Taylor Swift is definitely better known, and you could also make a solid argument that she is a better “businessman” as well.

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    Trump threatened her for her endorsement. Anyone who thinks he has any redeeming qualities is beyond redemption.

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    Once again, we see what the debate between Harris and Trump illustrated very clearly: The GOP in its current state is not pursuing any program whatsoever, but merely builds up imaginary enemy stereotypes that they blame for all their problems - without any even halfway factual reasons. Democratic processes are impossible with this tedious kindergarten approach because they are based on factual arguments, cooperation and the willingness to find common ground. I sincerely hope that there are some rational thinking conservatives left who will refuse to vote for this hateful orange moron and his ridiculous henchmen.

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      Yeah, it’s almost as if all their talking points and strategies are fed to them by a hostile foreign power that wants to destabilize its enemy. Weird.

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      I hate that it’ll be taboo to call them stupid in ten years. "Do you remember how stupid you were acting? What’s to make me believe you aren’t still that stupid"will be frowned upon. But seriously they’re behaving, and voting, that fucking stupidly.

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    I’m sure MAGAts are having to do mental jumping jacks from approving of a fake endorsement for Trump to now saying that her endorsement for Harris doesn’t really matter and that she’s a nobody. The whole thing is dumb either way, but if a pop star’s endorsement is what it takes to hold off the fascists for at least 4 more years, then so be it.

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      One of the Republican talking points in this election is that parents are sending their kids to school in the morning and they are coming home with their dicks chopped off in the afternoon because Democrats are performing operations on them to turn them trans. Yes, it is very weird and completely untrue.

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      Leading up to the debate, a whole bunch of new propaganda got pushed. Haitians eating cats in Ohio, Post-birth-abortions, and forced transitions for children, prisoners, and illegal-aliens. Totally normal conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing

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        Haitians eating cats in Ohio

        They overheard “I’m coming over there to eat that pussy” and got confused because they have no concept of a man doing something for the benefit of a woman.

        Post-birth-abortions

        I think the cops are handing that, or at the very least making sure no parents go into the school to prevent it from happening.

        forced transitions

        I got nothing, they’re just batshit crazy.

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          My speculation on the last one is they are (still) salty about the government and military providing transitional care and surgery.

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        I caught the cat eating thing, and the post-birth abortion thing. I must have been too distracted by the Venezuelan gangs that are supposed to have taken over my city to catch the other stuff.

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          How do you have any gangs if they’re all in jails getting free SRS? How do you even have a city when they were all razed by Dems rioting in 2020? Something is not adding up, either you or the Repub propaganda apparatus is lying.

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        Well, no one is forcing transitions, but we do and should continue to provide necessary medical care for prisoners. Arguably that care needs improvement in terms of accessibility for citizens and immigrants alike, which I think is where Trump pointed out Harris has truthfully put some work into.

        That’s what sucks about so many of these claims. Are they based on any truth?

        I will say, it’s at least a good exercise in critical thinking to have to go claim by claim, as exhausting as it is to so consistently find blatant lies, let alone half-truths.

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      At the Minnesota State Fair, Republicans set up a booth where they claimed Tim Waltz did nothing while Minneapolis burned to the ground. Was even depicted on the sign they put on their booth. The Minnesota State Fair takes place in Minneapolis; they’re literally in the city that supposedly burned down.

      This is the level of cognitive dissonance we’re dealing with.

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      I don’t think it’s about abortion. I think they decided allowing a transgender teen to exist is “dismembering children” even if surgery for trans teens barely ever happens IRL. If they were actually worried about gender affirming surgery for minors, they’d want to ban nose jobs and fake tits too. So, it’s just part of the general trans moral panic amongst conservatives and “Won’t someone please think of the children?” bullshit that always accompanies moral panics even if children aren’t involved.

      I’m cis but my understanding is that even trans adults find getting access to gender affirming healthcare is a huge, expensive ordeal. Philosophy Tube had a good video on her experience in the UK and I sincerely doubt it’s any easier in America’s labyrinthian, absurdly expensive non-system. It’s definitely not like parents are swinging by the urgent care to get their 13 year-olds free bottom surgery.

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        Eating them? Shit, I have a vet appointment to cancel… and a pile of children’s bones to dispose of…

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      She may mean the process of abortion. Unfortunately, it can be gruesome if not performed early.

      Source: Wife worked in a family care clinic and assisted with many of these procedures.

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        That’s essentially what I told my wife last night. If you’re undecided and watched the debate and still are undecided, just admit you’re a Trump voter.

        Seems you don’t even trust what your wife has to say, not sure why you’d ‘source’ her and expect everyone else to.