• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    56 minutes ago

    I played the game for a long time. Then I went to industry and never looked back.

    I totally, totally get people who stay in academia. I’ve had and in a way still have the dream. But: the struggle is just as bad if not worse than industry, while the money in industry is much, much better.

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    I think it’s funny how academia selects people based on their scientific aptitude and research experience and then puts them into positions where they have to spend much of their time teaching (something they may not have the aptitude for and definitely aren’t trained to do) and writing grant proposals. The more experience people have, the less time they have to do research (with the exception of a relatively small number of celebrity professors).

    With that said, I’m not sure how things could be changed for the better. I’d say that some training in teaching would be good, but I think most academics don’t actually want that. Being a TA was already an unwelcome imposition back when I was a grad student, so I wouldn’t have wanted to spend more time away from my research to become a better TA.

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      You’d have to overhaul the funding system drastically.

      Measuring scientific output by publications and citations is useless at best, but it’s easy so that’s how you’re measured.

      Writing grant proposals is 95% useless bullshit, there’s no useful content in the proposals, but it gives a false sense of objectivity and competitiveness, so that’s how you’re funded.

      Thing is, most of the world operates like that. Corporations measure useless KPIs and demand empty reports. There’s an entire caste of administrators whose entire existence is founded on this overhead to exist. I don’t see a way to change that without a very very serious disruption (that is, a major war, not a startup).

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      It’s obvious how to make it better: spend as much money on scientific progress as we do on figuring out how to blow brown people up.

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        I wouldn’t be opposed to more funding but there would still have to be some way to decide who to fund and making a good case that one’s research is worthwhile is always going to take a long time.

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          No, it only takes a long time because there’s so little to go around. Do you think defense funding takes months and years to award grants? No.

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            There are literally decades-long proposals, initial R&D and prototyping for big defense contracts.

            No, they aren’t taking years to award a new contract for the paper provider, but they are for new weapons and vehicles.

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        Maybe some graduate-level classes need to be taught by a researcher in the field and so students will simply have to deal with any deficiencies that researcher may have as a teacher, but IMO undergrads will probably learn more at a community college because the professors are actually there to teach.

        I still wouldn’t recommend the community college because the diploma from there won’t get the graduate as much respect, but I do know a community college graduate with a bachelor’s who makes way more than I do. She had trouble getting her first job but once she had some work experience, employers cared a lot less about where she studied. I also know and another graduate who got her associate’s at a community college and then transferred to somewhere more prestigious; she saved money without compromising her education.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      Yea, I figured this out my first year of classes.

      It’s not like it’s unknown, and I started college in the 80’s.