“The race for the White House is too close for comfort,” write parties from around Europe, calling on Stein to throw her support behind Democrat Kamala Harris.
  • chetradley@lemm.ee
    253·
    6 hours ago

    I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 because I assumed Hillary was going to win anyway, and I was in a solidly red state so fuck it, might as well vote 3rd party.

    Then Trump won.
    Then I learned about Stein’s backwards views on nuclear energy, GMOs and vaccines.
    Then she turned out to be a Russian asset.
    Then she decided to run again and again, knowing that she’s only acting as a spoiler for the Dems.

    Boy did I make a mistake in 2016. I wish there was a perfect candidate for everyone to vote for, but unfortunately keeping Trump out of the white house is the best we can do. Harris isn’t my first choice, but I voted for her on behalf of all of the people who will suffer under another Trump presidency.

  • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
    142·
    6 hours ago

    Damn, even people in other countries seem to understand what’s going on. I guess they don’t see both sides as the same for some reason. 🤔

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    1829·
    11 hours ago

    Breaking news: people with an actual commitment to environmentalism recognize Jill Stein for the obvious Russian shill and extreme threat to environmentalism she is. More at 11.

  • Intergalactic@lemmy.world
    322·
    8 hours ago

    Good. I was a part of the Green Party, I left when I learned they were planning of running a candidate this year, when internally, we were floating around the idea of NOT running a candidate. I am now a member of the Working Families Party.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      625·
      11 hours ago

      I was talking about intentional spoiler candidate for Trump whom Republicans are scrambling to get on as many ballots as possible Jill Stein, but maybe we’re talking about the same person here.

      • index@sh.itjust.works
        53·
        6 hours ago

        A nation that sent his troops on an invasion without boots and helmets controls ¾ of the candidates of the most powerful and advanced nation in the world that spend 10 times as much money in war and propaganda than everyone else, that has thousand military facilities around the globe, that has the biggest mass surveillance network ever seen in history with satellites capable of snooping at every inch of the planet at any given time.

        That’s what you are saying.

    • mos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      10 hours ago

      I see these comments a lot and I’d like to learn more. Do you have any articles on this?

      • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
        282·
        7 hours ago

        Well, start here at a dinner she attended in Moscow in late 2015:

        Years later, after Trump was elected, she claimed it was just perfunctory, with no real interaction with Putin. She also claims she received no payment for being there, although we know Flynn received 45k from Putin for his attendance.

        Then there is this from 2016 about Russian efforts to divert Clinton voters to stein. She also received intense press coverage by RT, Russians propaganda TV station, that was not banned in the US at the time.

        Here she is refusing to call Putin a war criminal, a stance she suddenly recanted days later.

        Here is evidence she is currently working with the GOP.

        • index@sh.itjust.works
          29·
          6 hours ago

          According to the lesser evil logic receiving money from putin is still less evil than being a fascist or being supporting a genocide.

          • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
            52·
            6 hours ago

            Coordinating directly with Putin, the oligarch dictator of Russia, who is currently engaged in a genocide in Ukraine, to elect Trump, a US presidential candidate that has told Israel it “needs to finish the job,” a person whose son in law has said gaza is “excellent beach front property,” and who hid the number of drone strikes and their casualties caused during his admin, is the lesser evil?

            I’d call the above stupid, not its far to disingenuous to be an actual real perspective.

            • index@sh.itjust.works
              28·
              6 hours ago

              Like it or not that still lesser evil than being a fascist who said israel “needs to finish the job” or being actively fueling a genocide by sending israel fascist government “whatever it needs”.

              Lesser evil logic, you vote for the lesser evil.

              • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
                61·
                5 hours ago

                This is nonsense.

                FPTP voting means there are 2 viable options only. If you don’t vote for the “lesser evil,” you are voting for the “greater evil.”

                Choosing to not make a choice is still a choice. Voting for “not Harris” is the exact same thing as voting for “yes Trump” in our system.

                You’re voting for the greater evil by voting for Jill Stein, which is exactly what her and her partners Putin and Trump want.

  • Asafum@feddit.nl
    555·
    10 hours ago

    “Stein was reached for comment where she added: what the fuck do you think I’m running for, to actually be president? Ha! You’re telling me to drop out so I can’t do the thing I’m here to do which is help Trump win. You realize how dumb that is right?”

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      273·
      10 hours ago

      At press time, Stein remarked: “No, no seriously guys, we’re actually a serious party that has any business running for the highest office in the nation please believe me.”

      • Wilzax@lemmy.world
        101·
        10 hours ago

        I would believe them if their party EVER got anyone elected, even to state congress, in even a third of the states.

        • meep_launcher@lemm.ee
          141·
          8 hours ago

          I said it once, I’ll say it again-

          Until ranked choice vote is established and the electoral college is abolished, there are no serious third parties.

          The most serious third party imo is the Forward Party, only because they have one platform which is RCV, and they are quietly working in local elections only. They aren’t running any candidates in federal elections, although they had a big win in helping Alaska switch to RCV for their congressional race, which nudged out Sarah Palin.

          With the forward party in conjunction with fairvote.org , they are laying the groundwork to create possibly the most revolutionary change to American politics ever.

          But in order to do that, we need to have elections. Vote Harris.

        • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          81·
          8 hours ago

          But they brag about five (5) whole Green Party members getting elected to state legislatures since 1985. You know, that’s like one (1) whole member every eight (8) years, which is a lot considering there are only thousands of state legislature positions across the US (some of which have such little competition fucking Buck Cluck could probably get elected to a few dozen of them). So I think your point is moot tbh.

  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
    13·
    10 hours ago

    I don’t think she really has a choice this close to the election. RFK has tried suing to get off the ballot in a few states and failed.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    9 hours ago

    The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout ‘SAVE US!’…and I’ll look down and whisper 'No.

    -Jill Stein, probably