• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    The reality of living in this country is a factor. Not everyone is in a position financially to quit their job and probably blacklisted from their industry.

    We do not have an adequate social safety net in this country. To be able to make principled stands without having to worry about your future prospects, you’d have to be independently wealthy, like the fuckers doing this shit. And that’s entirely by design with the policies they’ve made happen over the last 60+ years. Over a quarter of this country lives paycheck to paycheck now, that will include a lot of federal employees.

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      15 hours ago

      This just means you don’t stand for anything but your address.

      I’m finding I have even less support and sympathy for those in DC than I thought. They need hardship.

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        14 hours ago

        Ah, so a couple questions to see if you’re just a fucking idiot that thinks idealism can be reality, or if you’re even relevant to the conversation.

        1. Are you American or otherwise working in the United States currently?
        2. If so, how long would you be able to survive if you were to be fired or quit and not be able to work in your same industry? Meaning you would be starting off in an entry level role probably in unskilled labor, because most government workers aren’t in charge, they’re working desk jobs to make things function or doing some sort of inspection work, neither of which usually need college educations.
        3. If you’re not American, your opinion on this honestly means very little here since you do not have experience with working in the US.
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            13 hours ago

            Deleted not removed. It’s like saying a Reddit account is meaningless because most of the comments were deleted.

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          If you’re not American, your opinion on this honestly means very little here since you do not have experience with working in the US

          Former J1+H1 counterexample right here.

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            13 hours ago

            I shortened the last sentence. The 1st point literally covers that type of scenario.

            But that’s cool. Taking things out of context on purpose to manufacture a point is literally what the internet does best.

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          14 hours ago
          1. American
          2. If fired could live for a while, would probably lose home. Have lived homeless.
          3. N/A

          These are people choosing their home over their principles.

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                  It depends on who is employing you. You want that as your boss? You want your kids to see that as your boss?

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                They don’t know the people you are conversing with. You’re creating some strange narrative in your own brain and projecting it against the world.

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            Do you have a family? Kids? Anyone you are responsible for? Would you be so flippant about making them homeless?

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            These are people choosing their home over their principles.

            Okay you’re one of those people. This conversation is pointless. Have a good day.