Remember when you had the 2nd International, huge marxist parties like the SPD in Germany, all saying they would never support an imperialist war and were true marxists, and then when WW1 began they all sold out and supported the war? Good times. Very few, like Vladimir Lenin, Rosa Luxembourg and Eugene Debs, remained true to marxism and opposed the war. Well i think a similar situation is happening now with the SMO in Ukraine.
From “democratic socialists” to MLs to maoists to anarchists, they all said they would never support US imperialism, they would never support a new Iraq WMD lie. And yet, when the SMO began and the west started demonizing Russia and beating the drums of war, most of these ostensibly “leftist” figures, especially western figures, sold out and supported the antirussian histeria. From BreadTube to YoungTurks to maoists like Marxist Paul to anarchists, they all sold out. Even some principled MLs like Second Thought and Hakim have shied away from condemning this war histeria and supporting Russia. I think this will be the collapse of the 2nd International of our era, the new divide between true antiimperialists and sellouts.
What are your thoughts?
Oh boy! I just love dealing with that shit AFTER it’s too late to stop it. Then all the libs will be like “I never supported the war, I supported the Ukrainians. Sloba Zucchini!”
The worst is when you attempt to talk about any sort of politics and the conversation always winds up in the Ukraine, regardless of what you try to discuss. Its like they’ve been programmed to spread their nonsense on top of blindly believing it.
Sigh…so true. At this point we might as well refer to them as Missionaries of Empire.
The US lied about every military operation since WWII (and it even lied about that), but they think this time it’s different.