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- world@quokk.au
Actual headline buried the lead. The headline: "US, Colombia clash over deportations and raise tariffs in show of Trump’s pledge to limit migration
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Worth noting that the tariff threat worked. Columbia is now allowing the deportation flights and the tariff threat has been lifted.
Why is this propaganda piece being repeated all over Lemmy? It’s an opinion piece praising Trump and pushing his strong man narrative, it doesn’t contain actual news. Colombia demanded a humane treatment of their citizens. That was always the core of the scuffle. They never refused to welcome their own citizens in their own country. No country would do that.
The tariff threats did nothing. If you read Petro’s statements it’s clear what and why Colombia did the things it did in this matter. And none of them were out of fear of tariffs or being bullied by Trump. The military planes did return to the US and Petro sent the presidential airplane to get those people. If anything Colombia diplomatically humiliated Trump by forcing him to treat Colombian citizens as regular people and not criminals.
I have now seen two or three accounts having this exact same wording and narrative repeated on a couple of posts about this here on lemmy. They repeat either word for word the same conversation or use similar phrasing.
Reality seems to counter what you’re saying, from the article linked above, first two paragraphs even:
"The US will not go ahead with tariffs on Colombia, after Bogota agreed to accept - without restrictions - deported migrants, the White House says.
Donald Trump had ordered 25% tariffs on all Colombian goods after its president barred two US military deportation flights from landing in the country on Sunday."
Yeah, what else does the White House say that you believe?
When the people who told you they would impose tariffs tell you they are no longer going to impose tariffs, what else are you supposed to believe? They are the source of truth on that.
Keywords to determine the credibility of this narrative: “the white house says”.
It might be true, it might be false, but until the other party or an independent source with some actual credibility confirms it, we don’t know. It’s just more noise from Trump’s white house.
You’re misreading the quote, flip it around:
“The White House says the US will not go ahead with tariffs on Colombia, after Bogota agreed to accept - without restrictions - deported migrants.”
They aren’t saying Bogota made the agreement without restrictions, they are saying they aren’t going ahead with the tariffs. Maybe the excuse they’re giving is bullshit, but if they said they were doing it and now they say they’re not, that’s likely true until the NEXT time they decide to reverse themselves (3-2-1…!)
Now, if Bogota had not agreed to the flights, with or without restrictions, why would they call off the tariffs?
There’s countless reasons why they could have called off a tariff war, not least of which is that Colombia has a trade deficit with the usa, which would make a tariff war a very dumb idea for the USA.
This is all just classic Trump:
Make some dumb threats. Others explain to Trump how it will personally harm him somehow (otherwise he wouldn’t care). Cancel the threats and declare victory. The other party shrugs, but keeps silent to avoid harming Trump’s fragile ego.
Murillo added that the South American country’s presidential aircraft is available to facilitate the return of migrants who were to arrive hours earlier on the U.S. military airplanes
Colombia didn’t refuse to take their citizens back. They objected to their inhumane treatment and being delivered on military aircraft. The American media has become a pro-Nazi propaganda machine.
They objected to it, then immediately turned around and agreed to accept the flights without restriction.
Uhhhhhh what? No, Colombian demands were met. The deportations are flowing again because the US agreed to put the individuals on private chartered flights, after being fed, clothed, and properly vetted for deportation. All on the US dime. So the process before Trump took office. Sounds like normal ass diplomacy to me. US said we want to deport Colombian citizens illegally. Colombia said no, go through the internationally agreed on process, and the US said okay.
Trump must not realize how itchy most peoples index fingers get when they’re short on caffeine.
In an effort to combat “wokeness”, Trump bans coffee!
He’s speedrunning straight to the end of WW2. Not long and he should kill himself.
SHUT UP DAD
[sigh] upvote earned :)
The country is Colombia, not Columbia
Fixed
So… I hate Trump and I hate that America is sending deportees in restraints, but this article explicitly started that the tariffs were averted.
The headline and summary are misleading.
The story has evolved since this was posted.
The toddler-in-chief throwing a tantrum.
Petro has very sane demands here…he will only receive them on civilian planes being treated with respect, and is turning away military planes carrying people in chains.
Colombia, AKA coffee
Without context, that would be bigoted as fuck 😄
Then again, when Trump is involved, you can never really rule out bigotry 😮💨
I mean coffee IS Colombias largest export and Colombia is the world’s largest exporter of coffee.
Is it bigoted to reference staple exports when discussing threats of tariffs?
Nah, I’m just joking about the implication of “Colombia, also known as Coffee” 😉
In the gold rush, sell shovels.
If you aren’t printing and selling “I did that” Trump stickers…
Does he not know what happened when someone tried to fuck with the price of another caffeine favorite, Tea? We don’t even like tea and coffee is beloved so I’m sure this’ll go well!
You underestimate the right’s ability to scapegoat brown people for their failings. Fox news will throw out some wool that Colombia is somehow at fault and they will pull it over their own eyes.
OT: I’m so frustrated that in my local Costco there’s no single English tea, but they have entire aisle just for coffee.
? Our Costcos have lots of tea. I’m not sure about a whole aisle of it… maybe a regional thing?
Eventually there is going to be a massive backlash to all the shit this piece of shit is doing. I really believe it
nations which trade with the united states, which makes up pretty much every one, are stuck, this is what means to be the only superpower in the world, the engine of economics starts and ends with the united states, folks can take their luck with china but china doesn’t even come close. not sure who you expect, and what form this “backlash” would take, but it’d be interesting to hear what columbia would do with all the surplus coffee it can’t sell if there’s an embargo, what would happen to it’s farmers, it’s shippers, it’s entire economy. this is why the columbian president changed his tune.
The world’s economies are intertwined now.
Such behaviour will lead to countries decoupling from the USA. Over time, this will lead to the USA having ever less power.
(Btw, regarding “the only superpower”: The EU countries combined have a larger military than the USA.)
There’s no embargo. Colombia doesn’t need to do anything.
Trump is putting a tariff on the coffee. USA consumes almost 300 times more coffee than they produce. Even if they could produce 300 times more than they already do, it’s very unlikely that they can do it cheaper than Colombia. The price for Americans is simply going to increase by 25%
The backlash will come from Americans.
I was speaking more generally than this specific tariff action
ok, generally what would you have the general world at large to do about trump’s bullying, again being the leader of the worlds only superpower to which all other countries are inextricably linked economically right down to the very bones of their own economies? generally?
I don’t know, we’ll see. Calm down by the way
