Kind of a real question… what the hell is the “end game” for pro-western Indian fascists? Do they hope that western fascists do take over worldwide and instate their “loyal” locals to high positions? Like reimplement the caste system and set them at the top? That seems like a hell of a gamble and very unlikely to pay off.
I kind of understand anyone who is just doing it to grift off rich white people in the west. Hey, fuck em, take that money. But the actual ideological “true believers” make my brain hurt. It reminds me of the Balt countries or like fascist Ukrainians or Croatians during WWII. “You aren’t on the team, bro” energy.
They don’t need to be set up at the top. They already are. Some of them will call themselves “middle class”, but that just doesn’t exist. In India, anyone earning living above Rs. 25k a month is already in the top 1℅. Their only point of comparison or aspiration is the billionaires themselves, so, bootlicking is just as common here.
Just like with white supremacists, they are at the top of the social hierarchy already, but also have a victim complex with them being supposedly “threatened” by the minorities. In the US it’s DEI and Critical Race Theory that fascists are against, in India it’s the caste-based reservation system (affirmative action for the oppressed castes and tribes) and whatever small tidbits that are done for women in the name of the government being feminist (but barely) and progressive (like free public buses for women in some cities).
I don’t know who to attribute the quote to but it’s just the classic “resistance feels like oppression for those who’ve been long in the oppressor’s shoes”.
Edit: Also, the caste system doesn’t need to be reimplemented. It never went away. Again I’m drawing the comparison to western politics in case this is someone from the west that’s trying to understand. Slavery was abolished doesn’t mean that there aren’t other ways to practice forced labour and keeping people at the bottom of the hierarchy, right? It’s quite similar here too. There are laws that say untouchability is not supposed to be practiced, but people still use different utensils to serve water for the domestic workers for example. Manual scavenging (the labour of mostly Dalit men cleaning sewers with nil protective equipment) is banned. But it still happens. Every week we see news that a few more people died from the toxic fumes or complications after.
Caste endogamous marriages are still the norm, the jobs and positions are still barely spread out in some cases, not at all in a lot of fields, good education is still a pipe dream for the majority because only the oppressor castes can just purely focus on education with no other care and keep sending their kids to coaching centers to get through the national entrance examinations for the premier public institutions.
I think there’s a human tendency to believe whatever we’re doing is important and morally good, and this creates a huge messy gray area between the hypothetical pure grifter and the true believer. If you or I took up crypto scamming as a vocation, we’d probably justify it to ourselves with a Robin Hood narrative, but believing that cryptocurrency is the correct and just future would serve the same purpose. An Indian guy promoting western fascism because it pays the bills will come up with a reason this is a good idea, but his peers may come up with different ones, and there’s no guarantee of any ideological consistency between them, because these are just a pool of people who found ways to justify this particular bad idea to themselves.
They have been colonized by white people to the extent that some of the brainworms have taken root. Plus, we might make them white if they help us against China soon
Hard to tell which one this guy is from the article. My headcannon regarding your question is just a combination of confirmation bias and delusion. The facsim will align just enough with someone’s “conservative values” so when they see “fash hates X group” they can say “well I’m X but they hate the ones who are Y and honestly i don’t like those guys either. Surely they can tell the difference and are interested in doing so”
Kind of a real question… what the hell is the “end game” for pro-western Indian fascists? Do they hope that western fascists do take over worldwide and instate their “loyal” locals to high positions? Like reimplement the caste system and set them at the top? That seems like a hell of a gamble and very unlikely to pay off.
I kind of understand anyone who is just doing it to grift off rich white people in the west. Hey, fuck em, take that money. But the actual ideological “true believers” make my brain hurt. It reminds me of the Balt countries or like fascist Ukrainians or Croatians during WWII. “You aren’t on the team, bro” energy.
They don’t need to be set up at the top. They already are. Some of them will call themselves “middle class”, but that just doesn’t exist. In India, anyone earning living above Rs. 25k a month is already in the top 1℅. Their only point of comparison or aspiration is the billionaires themselves, so, bootlicking is just as common here.
Just like with white supremacists, they are at the top of the social hierarchy already, but also have a victim complex with them being supposedly “threatened” by the minorities. In the US it’s DEI and Critical Race Theory that fascists are against, in India it’s the caste-based reservation system (affirmative action for the oppressed castes and tribes) and whatever small tidbits that are done for women in the name of the government being feminist (but barely) and progressive (like free public buses for women in some cities).
I don’t know who to attribute the quote to but it’s just the classic “resistance feels like oppression for those who’ve been long in the oppressor’s shoes”.
Edit: Also, the caste system doesn’t need to be reimplemented. It never went away. Again I’m drawing the comparison to western politics in case this is someone from the west that’s trying to understand. Slavery was abolished doesn’t mean that there aren’t other ways to practice forced labour and keeping people at the bottom of the hierarchy, right? It’s quite similar here too. There are laws that say untouchability is not supposed to be practiced, but people still use different utensils to serve water for the domestic workers for example. Manual scavenging (the labour of mostly Dalit men cleaning sewers with nil protective equipment) is banned. But it still happens. Every week we see news that a few more people died from the toxic fumes or complications after.
Caste endogamous marriages are still the norm, the jobs and positions are still barely spread out in some cases, not at all in a lot of fields, good education is still a pipe dream for the majority because only the oppressor castes can just purely focus on education with no other care and keep sending their kids to coaching centers to get through the national entrance examinations for the premier public institutions.
This is very much the case for people in latam, too.
I think there’s a human tendency to believe whatever we’re doing is important and morally good, and this creates a huge messy gray area between the hypothetical pure grifter and the true believer. If you or I took up crypto scamming as a vocation, we’d probably justify it to ourselves with a Robin Hood narrative, but believing that cryptocurrency is the correct and just future would serve the same purpose. An Indian guy promoting western fascism because it pays the bills will come up with a reason this is a good idea, but his peers may come up with different ones, and there’s no guarantee of any ideological consistency between them, because these are just a pool of people who found ways to justify this particular bad idea to themselves.
They have been colonized by white people to the extent that some of the brainworms have taken root. Plus, we might make them white if they help us against China soon
They can’t be white, they season their food.
you answered your own question, most people are cattle
no further explanation is necessary
Hard to tell which one this guy is from the article. My headcannon regarding your question is just a combination of confirmation bias and delusion. The facsim will align just enough with someone’s “conservative values” so when they see “fash hates X group” they can say “well I’m X but they hate the ones who are Y and honestly i don’t like those guys either. Surely they can tell the difference and are interested in doing so”