The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an 18-page opinion, declined to interfere with a 1931 law that carries a five-year prison term for simply having brass knuckles, also known as metallic knuckles.
A “ban on the possession of metallic knuckles falls within the historical tradition of prohibiting the concealed carry of metallic knuckles as a dangerous and unusual weapon,” Judge Christopher Murray wrote in a 3-0 opinion Tuesday.
Brass knuckles are usually a single set of rings that fits on someone’s hand. A punch can inflict serious injuries.
America is weird af. Ban brass knuckles but allow semi-automatic weapons that kill thousands every year.
Weird. As. Fuck.
Reggie Kray on the other side of the sea about self defense:
Afaik it’s because there’s absolutely no other applications for brass knuckles to work. You can only assault people with brass knuckles.
Fire-arms can be used for “defence” and “hunting”.
My dude, you never been hunting until you punch the lights out of a deer.
That’s bullshit and you know it
If someone attacks you first, and you slip on the brass knuckles before defending yourself, then surely that would be a defensive use?
Yeah this is that kind of rules-lawyering grey area that everybody’s too busy to deal with. It’s the same issue with the assault rifles and large mags… they’re very clearly weapons of war but they look like guns and all* guns can be used for hunting.
A brass knuckle can also be used for defence.
If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you’re not properly storing your firearm…
You don’t need large magazines or semi-automatic weapons for hunting…
All the mouth breather Americans are down voting you for simply speaking the truth
If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you’re not properly storing your firearm…
Can you explain what you mean by this?
I think what they are trying to say that if you can quickly grab your loaded firearm and be ready for defense, then you are not storing your firearms correctly. Firearms should be locked up and ammo kept separate.
He’s tryna be a macho man who lives life on the edge and drives a Hummer. Give their kind a down vote and scroll on friend :)
North America? South America? Michigan is only a state in part of North America. Just want to be clear.
You do realize america is almost entirely built on weapons manufacturing right?
I just did some looking into this.
Apparently defense contractors get paid twice.
- They get paid by taxpayers when they get the contract.
- They get paid by foreign nations when the equipment is sold.
It’s so fucked beyond belief, I hope this generation can do something about it.
People will still sell them labeled as key-chains or paperweights.
I’ve got an antique real pair that belonged to my grandpa. They don’t make em like this anymore.
This guy capitals.
In most states you need a license to carry a gun with you though.
I found this humdinger that may or may not be accurate
“Open carry prohibited, concealed carry without a permit” is Chaotic Evil energy.
Chaotic Evil encapsulates Florida quite nicely.
Not anymore. Most states now have constitutional/permitless carry. Doesn’t apply if you’re a felon, have a history of drug abuse etc etc (varies by state).
In 21/50 you need a license.
I thought it was to conceal carry? My state I don’t think you need a license for any type of carry though. Which seems pretty legit now, considering. I feel like open carrying is way more sketchy than concealed.
I was walking along the shore in North Myrtle Beach and some jackass had colt .45 in a cowboy holster around his waist. He was walking with another chubby dude who was pretty obviously his friend. Never before have I seen such a fuckin chode
The solution is clearly to start carrying brass knuckle guns.
Apache Pistol FTW!
Easiest way to shoot yourself in the face haha
angle might be more in the balls. not sure.
Michigan also forbids pepper spray and stun guns. They interpret the right to bear arms as the right to make gun manufacturers rich. By the way, a pistol also fits in one hand and can be used to inflict serious injury. Pistols also get used to ambush people. Ever heard of armed robbery?
They’re going to be surprised if it gets to the Supreme Court:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/577/411/
“the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”
Woman bought a stun gun to protect herself from an abusive ex. State of MA charged her saying that stun guns didn’t exist back in the day, and were “dangerous and unusual” so the 2nd amendment doesn’t apply.
Another weird af hypocrisy where MA didn’t want stun guns to count but assult rifles were A-OK.
It truly is a wonder how America has lasted this long.
America lasted this long simply from momentum and good courtesy after WW2. That’s literally it.
We had a run. Considering how much of our founding was based on and sustained by slavery, it might be good to call it.
Assault rifles have been illegal nation wide for decades
Assault rifles were only banned for 10 years, from 1994 to 2004.
Assault rifle != Assault weapon. An assault rifle is a fully automatic or burst fire weapon. They’ve been illegal since 1986 and remain so to this day. And assault weapon is a made up term, based on superficial accessories like bayonet mounts or a pistol grips. Clintons AWB was essentially a “scary looking gun ban”. Guns that were functionally identical to banned guns were still readily available and perfectly legal.
Clinton conflated “assault weapon” and “assault rifle” intentionally to cause this sort of confusion and get credit for passing a bad bill that didn’t really address the problem.
you can buy an AR-15 in any gun store. they even make a “JR-15,” for kids. no, I’m not kidding.
AR-15 isn’t an assault rifle. The A stands for Armalite. The assault rifle version of the AR-15 is called the M16 and it’s illegal.
By the logic of Massachusetts, you only have a right to a muzzle loader and a sword then. What would they say if I were walking around in Boston with a katana or a British officer’s sabre?
And Cannon. Don’t forget cannon.
Those existed at the time. You’re also free to choose from axes, clubs and blades to giant semi-automatic crossbows. Sorry, sorry no giant crossbows, that tech was lost by then.
Metallic only? So you could make one from alternative material, like composites?
composites tend to not react well to impacts. The reason brass is used, also, is because it’s heavy and adds significantly more force.
I would suggest making a cestus, you can also buy “weighted gloves”… which a lot of cops just love, which are gloves with pockets over the knuckles weighted with lead.
The advantage to the cestus is you could say it was for historical reenactment, and you’re just LARPing or something.
Sap gloves are easy to make and not obvious. A pair of gloves with powdered lead sewn into little pouches over the knuckles and along the knife edge of the hand. A slap or punch will quickly put someone on the floor. Lots of cops wear them. You can get them online.
Of course bear arms don’t fit. They’re for fingers, and human ones at that though perhaps a cub could surprise a few.
I mean, I don’t know about you, but my trained attack bears have custom machined brass knuckles. only the best for my trained bears.
