I just don’t think it’s fair to scorn liberals for attempting to do something, then suggesting something you realistically wouldn’t do yourself.
Realistically their options are to bombard ICE inboxes, blockade the house, maybe get away with some vandalism, but I don’t think you can realistically expect people to burn a senior government official’s house down - as much as it may be deserved.
One person is significantly easier to kill or imprison than a thousand. What I would hypothetically be willing to do [in the video game World of Warcraft] as part of a 1000 person raid is very different than what I would be willing to do as an individual.
Well, true, but that’s an enormous hypothetical, and not really a realistic course of action. Even in that hypothetical, if a mob of 1000 people started firebombing government officials house, the police and then the national guard would deploy and start shooting. And who begins the raid? There needs to be someone to make the first move, without surefire knowing that 1000 people are about to back them up.
Next time you’re at a protest see how you feel about throwing a Molotov - let alone throwing one at a government official. I’ve been in crowds where people have done so little as lobbing bottles, and that crowd immediately got kettled by armed and mounted police, and the people who threw it got singled out, dragged out, and put in the van.
Militancy happens when people’s lives are made utterly miserable. That’s why militancy happens in exploited countries. That’s why trade unionists and anti racist groups were militant in the 20s-70’s in America, but not anymore. The conditions don’t necessitate it right now, and it’s not yet a rational response to risk your life.
It seems like those conditions will come back, but it hasn’t happened yet. If that time had come already, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
If you’re willing to sacrifice everything and end up in prison in the US for a long time, a one way flight is no barrier. If I were to get an ‘on-the-day’ flight, it could cost me less than $400, which is not a hard sum to make if you don’t plan on having any future commitments or a need to save up. Its an ocean between me and the US too, but it’s not the ocean that’s stopping me, it’s the fact that I am not willing to ruin my life for a cause that would forget me in no time at all. That’s the case for you too. Stop larping.
If you’re willing to sacrifice everything and end up in prison in the US for a long time, a one way flight is no barrier.
I have talked to a lot of people who are, perhaps not by their own words, but to some degree of self admitting, they are basically one financial hardship away from having nothing to lose. They might also be struggling with alienation of daily life working pointless jobs. Some people know that, statistically speaking, the financial mishap is coming, that the current regime is actively removing safety nets. Some people may want to reclaim some autonomy in their lives and get ahead of the bleak future. Some people already have nothing to lose.
For somebody in such a situation, in mainstream populism in the US, Luigi sits at the right side of the throne, and the left side is an open seat. It’s perhaps delusional to think someone could successfully pull off an act that would earn you the left seat in the court of public opinion, but people have gone to prison for dumber reasons. But there are a lot of people who are ready to commit a crime, they just lack knowledge of an opportunity to commit one.
Awww, such a strong poster you are! Feeling the need to weigh in with your very important opinion, are we? Good job! Good job posting! Such a good poster you are! Yes you are!
There, more love than you deserve. Now go away and don’t be a bother.
What’s stopping you from going and doing it?
I just don’t think it’s fair to scorn liberals for attempting to do something, then suggesting something you realistically wouldn’t do yourself.
Realistically their options are to bombard ICE inboxes, blockade the house, maybe get away with some vandalism, but I don’t think you can realistically expect people to burn a senior government official’s house down - as much as it may be deserved.
One person is significantly easier to kill or imprison than a thousand. What I would hypothetically be willing to do [in the video game World of Warcraft] as part of a 1000 person raid is very different than what I would be willing to do as an individual.
Well, true, but that’s an enormous hypothetical, and not really a realistic course of action. Even in that hypothetical, if a mob of 1000 people started firebombing government officials house, the police and then the national guard would deploy and start shooting. And who begins the raid? There needs to be someone to make the first move, without surefire knowing that 1000 people are about to back them up.
Next time you’re at a protest see how you feel about throwing a Molotov - let alone throwing one at a government official. I’ve been in crowds where people have done so little as lobbing bottles, and that crowd immediately got kettled by armed and mounted police, and the people who threw it got singled out, dragged out, and put in the van.
Militancy happens when people’s lives are made utterly miserable. That’s why militancy happens in exploited countries. That’s why trade unionists and anti racist groups were militant in the 20s-70’s in America, but not anymore. The conditions don’t necessitate it right now, and it’s not yet a rational response to risk your life. It seems like those conditions will come back, but it hasn’t happened yet. If that time had come already, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
idk i think the crowd of 1000 is the bigger ask, if you’ve already got the numbers might as well do the cool thing
Paint bomb ICE windshields if you see them. Gives more time to gather crowds at attempted abductions.
gas prices
An Ocean is stopping me. Don’t tell me what I would and wouldn’t do. What about you? What’s stopping you?
If you’re willing to sacrifice everything and end up in prison in the US for a long time, a one way flight is no barrier. If I were to get an ‘on-the-day’ flight, it could cost me less than $400, which is not a hard sum to make if you don’t plan on having any future commitments or a need to save up. Its an ocean between me and the US too, but it’s not the ocean that’s stopping me, it’s the fact that I am not willing to ruin my life for a cause that would forget me in no time at all. That’s the case for you too. Stop larping.
I have talked to a lot of people who are, perhaps not by their own words, but to some degree of self admitting, they are basically one financial hardship away from having nothing to lose. They might also be struggling with alienation of daily life working pointless jobs. Some people know that, statistically speaking, the financial mishap is coming, that the current regime is actively removing safety nets. Some people may want to reclaim some autonomy in their lives and get ahead of the bleak future. Some people already have nothing to lose.
For somebody in such a situation, in mainstream populism in the US, Luigi sits at the right side of the throne, and the left side is an open seat. It’s perhaps delusional to think someone could successfully pull off an act that would earn you the left seat in the court of public opinion, but people have gone to prison for dumber reasons. But there are a lot of people who are ready to commit a crime, they just lack knowledge of an opportunity to commit one.
Sure, but it’s not happening yet. I think there’s still some ways to go before adventurism years begin.
Okay, Good luck changing nothing then, bozo.
I will be over where I am, doing stuff in the meantime.
Big words coming from someone evidently not engaging in the acts of revolutionary terrorism that they advocate others to do…
You won’t and wouldn’t do a thing. safe an ocean away typing on your little keyboard
Awww, such a strong poster you are! Feeling the need to weigh in with your very important opinion, are we? Good job! Good job posting! Such a good poster you are! Yes you are!
There, more love than you deserve. Now go away and don’t be a bother.
lol more tip tapping on your little keyboard all safe what a surprise
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