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        I am from Seattle.

        Anecdotally:

        This is correct.

        People are absurdly transactional, performative and superficial about relationships and also very anti social compared to basically anywhere else I’ve ever been in the US.

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            … either you enjoy having no friends…

            … or you enjoy superficial performative ‘relationships’ that are all actually adversarial social status jockeying?

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              It was a joke. I tend to be introverted, and I love the Seattle vibe.

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                I do not understand how your joke works.

                If you genuienly enjoy antisociality as a norm, because you tend to be introverted, then you just like Seattle because of that.

                You would then not be joking, in the sense of sarcastically saying you enjoy something you don’t actually enjoy.

                ‘I knew I liked Seattle for a reason’ is then just the same as saying ‘Yup, I’m also anti social and I love it here’.

                The ‘joke’ isn’t that you actually don’t like Seattle’s social norms and were being sarcastic, because you just said you’re introverted.

                I honestly do not understand how this is a joke.

                Is… just using the pithy/vague phrasing… in and of itself… the joke?

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                  Well if it wasn’t funny before, it certainly is now after this dissertation…

                  I think you’re over analyzing some random throwaway line. It was immediately apparent to me that the commenter was being facetious.

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                    I am not trying to be an ass, I am autistic and I do not understand what the joke is supposed to be.

                    This reads to me as a contradictory paradox.

                    If you say the joke is that Gerudo was facetious, ie unserious, sarcastic, didn’t actually mean they liked Seattle when they said they ‘liked Seattle for a reason’… and then they do indeed confirm they do actually like Seattle’s social introversion because they are an introvert…

                    Then… they were being serious in the first statement… ie, not facetious.

                    So… that cannot be the joke.

                    If I exaggeratedly said 'Man I LOVE~~~ hamburgers!" … and someone said ‘wait are you serious?’ and my response was ‘Yes I do really love hamburgers.’

                    Then again, the only thing I can see as the part that is supposed to be funny in any way is the exaggerated tone.

                    That to me just reads as … dramatic, quirky, enthusiastic? Not inherently funny though?

                    … Is the ‘joke’ that they didn’t realize why they liked Seattle untill I described the social norms?

                    The… joke would then be… it is funny that they couldn’t describe or put words to why they liked something and had to have their own thoughts described by another person before they could articulate them?

                    That… seems more like an insult than a joke? I guess that could be funny if I were predisposed to enjoy cruelty/mockery against Gerudo… but I’m not, so that just seems rude.

                    I am at least self aware enough of an autist to know that many people find my confusion in this scenario funny, when I would describe that as cruel, but I am genuienly baffled by how what Gerudo said was ‘a joke’.

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                  Maybe joke was the wrong wording, but you are really digging deep for a throw-away line on an internet thread. I will try to explain since you took the time to write the essay.

                  One person says a line to talk down about something. “Seattle seems unfriendly.”

                  I say I agree, but I actually like the thing they don’t like. “I knew I liked Seattle”

                  That’s essentially it. I like the aspect of Seattle the other person didn’t. At best, other people like minded to me would read it and blow some air out their nose in agreement.

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                    I appreciate your willingness to explain, but I am still confused.

                    … I am the person who described Seattle as introverted and anti social.

                    You are ascribing motive, intention, to my original description, that motive being ‘to talk down about something’, ie, to insult or degrade.

                    I am not doing that. I am describing my lived experience in Seattle as objectively as I can.

                    Yes, it is my personal, anecdotal experiencd, so it may or may not be truly representative…

                    But I am not exagerating in my assesment.

                    You have assumed I am doing that, and just said something with a contrarian intention than the intention you incorrectly assumed I had.

                    That still isn’t a joke.

                    It is just being contrarian.

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            Looks like Miami also does not have any specific vernacular for ‘friend’ on these maps, so… maybe if you just overlay all these maps and find all the deadzones, you’ve found the areas of antisociality?