No, it wasn’t the worst famine in history, and Mao didn’t personally cause it. China had horrible famines every few years for Millennia, the fact that it happened once under socialism can’t be attributed to socialism. China hasn’t had any famine since, so historically Socialism has done a lot to end famine.
Imagine a machine that routinely breaks down. You take over maintenance for it, it breaks once more, then under your care never again. The story is that you finally fixed the machine, not that it broke down for the 100th time at the start of your tenure.
Isn’t it funny how yankees will accuse anyone they’ve got an existential enmity with of “causing” a “genocidal” drought like these OPFOR are like-- mystical 9th level shamans that can just point at the land and say “wither”? While we’re on the subject, if the droughts of Mao’s time were a genocide, then shouldn’t you really ought to consider the Dust Bowl one too?
Stalin did killed Polish president like that. 10 April 1940 he planted some trees around aiport in Smolensk. Exactly 70 years later 10 April 2010 plane carrying Lech Kaczyński crashed on the trees around the airport.
It’s really shameless how the US actively messes with people’s food and the ability of the land to produce said food in order to benefit short term capital gains, while also pointing the finger at last-of-their-kind famines experienced under fledgling workers states as some sort of trump card.
Even now 10% of US households don’t always have enough to eat. US foreign policy is in large part designed to starve people and keep others under threat of being starved. Farmland is being destroyed in the name of quick profits.
Meanwhile China has incredible stockpiles of grains just in case the worst happens, and they have prioritized national food security and self-sufficiency as a matter of national security.
Nobody died during the Dust Bowl. John Steinbeck is a fucking liar. Actually, if anything, the population boomed and everything was even more awesome. FDR was the one that killed everybody. Things under Coolidge and Hoover were going great. You’ve just been fooled by all those insidious college Marxists who never took a simple Econ 101 class in their lives.
Idk how much of that was Big Evil Mao telling people to kill the Four Pests and how much of that was the lingering consequences of a 40 year long Japanese genocidal occupation, brutal civil war, and attendant refugee crises. But if you’re really interested in what farm life during the era of Chinese Revolution looked like, there’s an excellent historical documentary called “Fanshen” that details the day-to-day life in Long Bow Village from '45 to '48 during the land-reform campaign.
relative to Mao’s famine (if we blame every action to Mao) then India was having frequent famines and droughts which caused millions of deaths , misery and poverty .
Never before has any state, much less the state of the Chinese Communist Party, been so bold as to control the agricultural sector.
didn’t Mao make horrible changes that caused the worst famine ever
No, it wasn’t the worst famine in history, and Mao didn’t personally cause it. China had horrible famines every few years for Millennia, the fact that it happened once under socialism can’t be attributed to socialism. China hasn’t had any famine since, so historically Socialism has done a lot to end famine.
Imagine a machine that routinely breaks down. You take over maintenance for it, it breaks once more, then under your care never again. The story is that you finally fixed the machine, not that it broke down for the 100th time at the start of your tenure.
To reinforce your point:
Sauce.
Isn’t it funny how yankees will accuse anyone they’ve got an existential enmity with of “causing” a “genocidal” drought like these OPFOR are like-- mystical 9th level shamans that can just point at the land and say “wither”? While we’re on the subject, if the droughts of Mao’s time were a genocide, then shouldn’t you really ought to consider the Dust Bowl one too?
When it happens in the US, its a natural disaster.
When it happens elsewhere, its caused by a person.
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Holy shit, this is comedy gold! I love how it’s named “Hilary” as well.
Sorry. I did the math, and this was caused by Stalin waving his gigantic spoon around so hard it made a hurricane occur 75 years later.
Chalk up more deaths to the Black Book of Communism!
Stalin did killed Polish president like that. 10 April 1940 he planted some trees around aiport in Smolensk. Exactly 70 years later 10 April 2010 plane carrying Lech Kaczyński crashed on the trees around the airport.
the US isnt the US when it’s ruled by the OTHER PARTY
remember libs crying under trump how “THIS ISNT THE AMERICA I GREW UP IN” and shit?
The genocidal Dust Bowl was the personal fault of H. Hoover and FDR. They waved their wands of dryness and directly caused the droughts.
Oh, I always thought it was forbidden Colonizer magic that did it, I didn’t know it was just wands of dryness :o
You have to use forbidden Colonizer magic to create the wands of dryness
[Unbearable desire to make a lame dirty joke]
unironically the dust bowl was the result of the genocide of native peoples & homesteading policies, not natural processes.
but these were over the duration of several decades, not a single presidential administration.
It’s really shameless how the US actively messes with people’s food and the ability of the land to produce said food in order to benefit short term capital gains, while also pointing the finger at last-of-their-kind famines experienced under fledgling workers states as some sort of trump card.
Even now 10% of US households don’t always have enough to eat. US foreign policy is in large part designed to starve people and keep others under threat of being starved. Farmland is being destroyed in the name of quick profits.
Meanwhile China has incredible stockpiles of grains just in case the worst happens, and they have prioritized national food security and self-sufficiency as a matter of national security.
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Nobody died during the Dust Bowl. John Steinbeck is a fucking liar. Actually, if anything, the population boomed and everything was even more awesome. FDR was the one that killed everybody. Things under Coolidge and Hoover were going great. You’ve just been fooled by all those insidious college Marxists who never took a simple Econ 101 class in their lives.
“John Steinbeck is a fucking liar” has me fucking cackling
Idk how much of that was Big Evil Mao telling people to kill the Four Pests and how much of that was the lingering consequences of a 40 year long Japanese genocidal occupation, brutal civil war, and attendant refugee crises. But if you’re really interested in what farm life during the era of Chinese Revolution looked like, there’s an excellent historical documentary called “Fanshen” that details the day-to-day life in Long Bow Village from '45 to '48 during the land-reform campaign.
relative to Mao’s famine (if we blame every action to Mao) then India was having frequent famines and droughts which caused millions of deaths , misery and poverty .
I believe that was Stalin and his comically-large spoon.
FR though, read into these famines a bit closer. It sounds like your sources may have passed over some of the context surrounding these famines.
Wrong Tankie. It was Mao who paid the Yellow River to flood.