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It’s astonishing how little you people give a damn about this. The amount of garbage China gets away with in this world is incredible
Who is “you people”?
And what would those people do exactly?China has over 1.4 Billion people. And it’s military is twice the size of the US military. Just for reference.
Twice the size, but they don’t have anywhere near as much military hardware. Another factor, the US military logistics system is also the most robust in the world.
Infantry might fight wars, but logistics wins wars. (This is why Russia is losing in Ukraine, they lack the logistics system to deliver things outside their own borders)
China doesn’t have a great worldwide logistics system, but like Russia, they have a great internal system.
So a Chinese invasion of the US would basically be dead in the water, likely literally. As in, the ships carrying the invasion force would be sunk before they could unload.
A US invasion of China would be a deadly slog. The US would likely have air superiority, but that only goes so far.
The major factor in any fight, oil. China doesn’t have much in the way of their own reserves. They get most of their oil via tanker from the Middle East. And those shipping lanes are a massive weak point.
One that everyone knows, and also watches.
The final factor is the nuclear capabilities. China is outclassed there as well, but any nuclear fight is one that everyone loses.
The TLDR; China has a lot of troops, but not as much of everything else.
Military size means nothing if you can’t move it, thank you USN.
I’m pretty sure they can move it how ever they want to inside thier own country.
China now has the largest fleet in the world by hull count.
They’re still in the process of building up their carrier fleet but it will be able to match the Pacific fleet within the next decade.
I think any discussion on which fleet could destroy the other would be irrevocably tainted by jingoism and the fact that there hasn’t been a serious naval engagement in eighty years, but the main point is that this weird idea people have that the US Navy is the undisputed king of the ocean is the kind of arrogance that has been punished countless times in history.
The Pacific fleet? The US has 12 of those.
My guy the U.S. Army also has more ships than the USN by hull count.
There wouldn’t even be a fight.
Because this has been going on for years now, but it seems to not matter to most news organizations who barely give it any coverage. And we can do something about it by making people more aware of it
What would you do? Serious question.
Well, we could start by not giving them all of the money but that would be an inconvenience to shareholders so I guess there’s nothing we can do really.
That’s not something the average person has any control over
“It’s OK though the us does bad stuff too so china deserves a pass and should be left alone” - Grad + Hexbear geniuses
The CCP are a real blight on this world and on the Chinese people.
Fuck the CCP
Ah yes, because the Dui Hua Foundation is so reliable.
So how exactly was she “engaging state security,” by teaching about Uyghur culture?!
China is a tyrannical regime. Logic is not a requirement.
Seems more like a lesson learned from all the people the US placed in Gitmo without even a secret trial. And at least China had the argument that they literally did have many spread out terrorist attacks from more radical believers in the Uyghur communities inside China. I think that both the US and China handled shit bad as fuck. But until the US fully shuts down Gitmo and returns it to Cuba, and ends all of our black sites. Then it isn’t exactly something that the US has any real right to talk any shit about just because it is China. We are beyond the level of tyrannical, we are just better at controlling the narrative and have somehow been allowed to just dictate what other nations are “good” and “evil”.
China is doing more to un-fuck their bad choices, as they have made sure that folks that shouldn’t have been mixed in were able to get jobs and technical/vocational training/school. The US never put any tiny amount of even PR level shit for helping Muslims we grabbed up and tortured while being held without any level of legal protections. There are some folks that might just be kept forever at this point as they are afraid that those people might become actual terrorists after being treated so badly while innocent.
Does that mean China gets a pass? No. But the US has done far more in the past 40 years to create the very extremists and terrorists that we keep seeing pop-up. We have done more to create suffering on a global scale since the end of the British Empire. We just hide it better and our gaslighting is top notch from media to trade. Just because we have “freedom of speech” doesn’t mean we aren’t tyrannical.
The whataboutism is strong with this one
~80 prisoners wrongfully detained in conjuction with a terrorist attack that killed thousands = the ethnic cleansing of an entire people directly by the state and the imprisonment of teachers
The lemmygradians huff the good stuff as usual.
Anyone from hexbear care to add to this?
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This is such a misguided take that I find it hard to believe it’s not deliberate. Why do certain Americans always have to make everything about themselves?? Stop distracting from the fact that the Uyghurs are being wiped out. Normal people who are being rounded up, arrested and never seen again. It’s on a par with the what the Third Reich were doing to Jewish people in the 1930s.
Citation needed (RFA and Adrian Zenz doesn’t count)
I have no idea what or who those are, so whatever you’re trying to insinuate about me you’re probably wrong. There’s plenty of evidence of what is going on. All states are brutal and oppressive towards at least one group of people.
The Uyghur’s are not being wiped out. There has never in history been a genocide where the population went up. The Uyghur fertility rate is over 3.0, which is still over replacement rate.
Well, she was missing since 2017. Probably being re-educated to teach Uyghur kids to worship Xinnie the Pooh
Hexbear cheers uncontrollably
This is the best summary I could come up with:
BEIJING (AP) — A prominent Uyghur scholar specializing in the study of her people’s folklore and traditions has been sentenced to life in prison, according to a U.S.-based foundation that works on human rights cases in China.
Rahile Dawut was convicted on charges of endangering state security in December 2018 in a secret trial, the San Francisco-based Dui Hua Foundation said in a statement Thursday.
“The sentencing of Professor Rahile Dawut to life in prison is a cruel tragedy, a great loss for the Uyghur people, and for all who treasure academic freedom,” John Kamm, executive director of the Dui Hua Foundation, said in a statement.
She disappeared in late 2017 amid a brutal government crackdown aimed at the Uyghurs, a Turkic, predominately Muslim ethnicity native to China’s northwest Xinjiang region.
Dawut was internationally renowned for her work studying sacred Islamic sites and Uyghur cultural practices in Xinjiang and across Central Asia, authoring many articles and books and lecturing as a visiting scholar abroad, including at Cambridge and the University of Pennsylvania.
News of her life sentence shocked Freeman and other academics in Uyghur studies, as Dawut didn’t engage in activities opposing the Chinese government.
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I’m not sorry to say this , I don’t trust anything this paper says simply because it is an attempt to beat the cold war drum
The US based foundation the article is citing said they have a source who told them this woman was sentenced to life. Other than that Radio Free Asia claims to have interviewed her coworkers to confirm she was arrested in 2018. That’s the extent of the evidence as no other information was provided. I think it’s reasonable to have doubts.
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Take this with a grain of salt. There’s not any evidence presented here to suggest that these claims are true. The US based foundation the AP is citing references an unnamed source but that’s it.
