spoiler alert: drivers. it’s all drivers’ fault

  • @RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    Bike helmets are a good idea no matter what cars are doing. You can die from a stationary fall from a bike by hitting your head on the pavement without a helmet. Happened to a person in my friend circle. Girl died on the fucking sidewalk after falling off her bike with no helmet.

    • @lntl@lemmy.sdf.org
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      9 months ago

      Yes, helmets are good. I wear one so that when I am thrown from the hood of a car, there is less of a chance of my head opening up when it hits the asphalt.

      With that said, I think one of the concepts of this article is that enforcing helmet laws shifts the blame of people getting injured/killed by people operating motor vehicles onto the person on the bicycle. In reality, even with a helmet, being hit by a motor vehicle at 50mph is likely fatal and there are too many examples of drivers killing people on bicycles and then just driving away.

      Helmet laws “protect” people on bicycles. Sinces there’s a system to protect them, (helmets) the discussion of safety can end instead of continue on the dangers of road design and motor vehicles themselves. Essentially, the problem of people getting killed/injured on bicycles is a problem with motor vehicles, not helmets.

    • @fluke@lemmy.world
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      You’re missing the point of the article and the discussion.

      Wearing a helmet only adds a hurdle to something where the very core concepts of which is supposed to be the accessibility and freedom it offers.

      For the statistical likelihood of a helmet saving someone’s life or from serious injury, is it really worth the spotlight that is constantly placed on them?

      Ironically, all they seem to be used for is as a weapon for battering the idea of making cycling easier for the masses around the head.

      The amount of comments I’ve seen from absolute meat heads who can’t bear the idea of not driving their cars literally everywhere justifying their behaviour towards a bike rider or that one is somehow responsible for an incident that wasn’t their fault because they didn’t wear a helmet is fucking barmy.

      Cycling is a method of transport no different to any other. You don’t have to cart around bulky, awkward and fairly fragile items with you when you get to your destination in your car, on the bus or via train. Why mandate it for the cleanest form of transport beside walking?

      Bluntly put, you can fall over, hit your head and die without a bike at all. Should you have to wear a helmet all the time in your day to day? Silly notion and simply an appeal to emotion/but sometimes fallacy.

      Edit: to those downvoting, please explain how you feel my comment hasn’t added to the discussion, since that’s what it’s for. It isn’t a ‘disagree’ button.

      • @RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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        Really just seems like a dumb thing to be opposed to. You anti-car weirdos have a lot of issues with a lot of things, and not really much in the way of logistically viable solutions.

        In reality, how many instances have you or anyone reading this seen of anyone being cited by police or hassled by anyone about not wearing a helmet? I don’t think it’s stopping anyone. I never wear a helmet when I ride my mountain bike. I ride all over the place in town, on the sidewalks or what the fuck ever I want to do. Nobody cares. Police have better things to worry about, like how to find some drugs or steal somebody’s money.

        • @fluke@lemmy.world
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          29 months ago

          I’m anti car? Sure thing buddy. Excellent assumption there given that I’m a big petrol head.

          But because I also believe that they’re not the solution to 99% of urban mobility that means I’m anti-car?

          There are a multitude of viable alternatives to car reliance, many of which are currently already in application and shown to be incredibly effective already. But of course that doesn’t fit your narrative of trying to make out that cars are the only way to get around.

          Remember that American cities were demolished for cars in the post war era. If you can demolish to make room for cars, then you can build to accommodate people.

  • SalamanderA
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    Car crashes are one of the main sources of traumatic brain injuries. I think that it is likely that someone who is wearing a helmet during a car crash would be protected to a degree from TBIs, so I looked a bit for a source on this and found this relevant blog post:

    Op-Ed: Yes, Gov. Cuomo, Car Helmets Could Save Lives

    Fortunately here in the Netherlands we don’t have to bike with a helmet on. Would I be supposed to leave it hanging from my bike, exposed to the rain and theft? Or carry it with me into the shops and bars and keep an eye on it? Sounds like a nuisance.

    • @salarua@sopuli.xyzOP
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      51 year ago

      i mean, the article is about how we in the US focus exclusively on helmets as a silver bullet for bike safety. they’re not as effective as people in the US make them out to be, even though they are effective in some situations.

      Would I be supposed to leave it hanging from my bike, exposed to the rain and theft? Or carry it with me into the shops and bars and keep an eye on it?

      don’t worry, nobody in the US has solved that problem either. some people leave it on their handlebars, others put it in their backfit, others stow it away in a bag and carry it with them.

    • Arthur Besse
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      21 year ago

      Op-Ed: Yes, Gov. Cuomo, Car Helmets Could Save Lives

      Amazing, thanks for the link. I just re-posted it here.

  • @lntl@lemmy.sdf.org
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    119 months ago

    After a drunk driver going 60 mph in his 3,500-pound BMW hit and killed cyclist Eric Ng, the New York Times pointed out that he had been helmetless.

    New community: Fuck the New York Times?

      • @ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social
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        19 months ago

        This type of rhetoric really reminds me of the anti maskers. You could also extend it to seat belts as well. There is nothing wrong with wearing a reasonable amount of safety gear. It takes seconds to put on and take off a bike helmet.