Lauterbach warnt vor unheilbarer Immunschwäche durch Corona
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Wer sich öfter mit Corona infiziert, läuft offenbar Gefahr, an einer unheilbaren Immunschwäche zu erkranken. Darauf deuten laut Gesundheitsminister Lauterbach verschiedene Untersuchungen hin, die derzeit weiter erforscht werden. In der Folge würde das Risiko für chronische Krankheiten wie Demenz steigen.
  • knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
    101·
    2 years ago

    This is great hate-reading. I’m recovering from my second Covid infection. I had “medium” covid last time and it feels similar this time. I’m not even 30 and it looks like I’ve got a life of serious health risks ahead of me. The government doesn’t give a fuck anymore, if they ever did beyond making sure the workforce could work, they’ve entirely switched over to sucking off industry and the Americans over the energy and Russia issues. Covid is over, Lauterbach (even as a health academic himself) was powerless to stop the train of “personal responsibility,” there are no restrictions of note left in Germany. Official policy can be summed up with “please wear a mask if you’re sick,” and the the mass line is “well it wasn’t nice while it lasted but fun’s over, now back to work everyone.”

  • Stoned_Ape@lemmy.ml
    4·
    2 years ago

    Wenn jemand nach zwei Infektionen ein stark gealtertes Immunsystem hat, ist es ratsam, dass er weitere Covid-Infektionen vermeidet

    (Translation) If somebody had two infections, and his immune system aged strongly, it is advised to avoid further infections.

    Well. What does he mean with “infection”? Just literally the infection, no matter how severe the symptoms were? This is pretty vague communication - sadly as usual.

    What does “aged” mean in the context of immune system? Does an immune system have an age that is independent of the age of the rest of the body? That would be the first time I’ve heard about this.

    Did those studies find out a difference between vaccinated vs unvaccinated? Also something that gets left out pretty often.

    I’m honestly wary of “long covid”. I remember that Lauterbach once had a influencer on the official ministry public communication board, and it was painfully obvious that this person was recruited for the job. That person constantly stated how important vaccination is. After being asked what she thinks of getting severe long covid - despite being vaccinated to the full amount (4 doses). She was visibly confused. Apparently, they didn’t even think of that question before doing that public communication round. The statement was: “I would probably have been even more ill.” But that of course was just a guess - and nobody was none the wiser.

    It’s absolutely ridiculous what’s going on in Germany regarding Covid.

    …also… stating “incurable” about a disease that is just being investigated… quite bold if you ask me. But that’s the good old fear mongering.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      1·
      2 years ago

      What does “aged” mean in the context of immune system? Does an immune system have an age that is independent of the age of the rest of the body? That would be the first time I’ve heard about this.

      That is indeed a thing, although I agree that “age” is maybe not the best term for it. This only somewhat related article explains well that is meant by that.

      • Stoned_Ape@lemmy.ml
        2·
        2 years ago

        Thanks for the link.

        I guess I don’t understand if there is a difference between “aged immune system” and “weak immune system”. Aged, as I would define it, can’t be reversed. Otherwise it would just be temporally weak and can improve to the typical state of immunity of similar aged peers.

        More research is needed to confirm whether stress reduction or lifestyle changes will lead to improvements in immune aging

        I guess they don’t really know that as well.

        • poVoq@slrpnk.net
          1·
          2 years ago

          Indeed it is implied that these changes are irreversible and at best can be slowed down. But there is still a lot of open research in this area AFAIK.

          • Stoned_Ape@lemmy.ml
            2·
            2 years ago

            I agree that aging implies this, but apparently they don’t know. That’s why I wonder why they’re calling it like that.

            Just anecdotal, but… I have generalized anxiety, and sometimes I have high stress, while some times low stress. I do know that my immune system responds to that. Which is also what they’re talking about in this article.

            I just fail to see any reason to call it “aging”, when it implies something they don’t know.

            • poVoq@slrpnk.net
              1·
              2 years ago

              As far as I can tell the current science sees two overlapping effects there, one temporary weakening effect that can be reversed and one they describe as accelerated aging or sanding-down of the immune system that is pretty much irreversible without something like a bone marrow transplant or such.

      • Stoned_Ape@lemmy.ml
        1·
        2 years ago

        Thanks for the link, but have you read these studies? If yes, which of those have something to do with “aging the immune system”? That infections can have serious long term effects is nothing new, that is known for a very long time, by the way.

  • guojing@lemmy.ml
    411·
    2 years ago

    Are we still doing vovid fearmongering? Its been three years now, I thought most people realized that the risk was completely exxagerated in order to create profits for pharma companies.