There were environmental arguments presented against stacking rocks, and there is nothing lost to an individual by not stacking rocks. There is no hunger or suffering involved by abstaining from that, but the counterpoint was, apparently, “DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.”
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This is why the saying is “touch grass” and not “touch rocks”
Grass is a horrible monoculture and is the most widely planted crop on the planet. Please touch it so much that it dies and makes room for native flora
“You want me to not stack rocks? So, what, if I don’t donate all my money and live like a monk and put nature in a big glass box I’m worse than Hitler? That’s what you’re saying, right? You just want to keep all the nature for yourself!” - like three different people
Some people break down and regress to children if you ask them to even theoretically inconvenience themselves.
I had an amazing one on one struggle session with someone on Hexbear over gas powered leafblowers. They emit a staggering amount of pollution compared to even a conventional car per drop of gas, are noisy and messy and don’t really solve the problem the way a rake does, just move it around, but I was the bad guy because they claimed that their particular garden arrangement required a gas powered leafblower for some reason. :grillman:
Uhhh what’s wrong with extension cables and electricity?
I think I accidentally broke the gas leaf blower we have at work so :im-doing-my-part:
I think the funniest part about it was that people had a break down over being told to NOT inconvenience themselves while also preserving a fragile ecosystem and the commons. A triple win scenario and they are crying because the like to stacka da rock
Getting my socks wet to own the libs.
Yes I’ve met non vegans as well
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How about, to mix it up a bit, we have a ‘struggle session’ on the theoretical level? Instead of using topics to have proxy debates about conceptions of justice and autonomy, we just lay out clearly our differing views of justice, autonomy, democracy, intellectual property, etc.
Didn’t Mao have much to say about self critique as an ongoing practice and as a healthy habit for the party? :mao-clap:
Is it that most of us don’t have the ability to properly articulate an argument about those things? Or that we all assume we share the same stance but the differences come out in these super specific situations that turn into struggle sessions? That’s why we get fixated on the specific things. If you ask how we feel about autonomy in the abstract, we all pretty much agree. If you ask about autonomy and not moving rocks, we argue because we don’t have the same view of it. The rock moving brings it out but the source is an actual fundamental disagreement about those things but we can never properly touch on it because it requires specificity to a “real world” situation in order to show up clearly.
Very good points, you can only really expect political philosophers/theorists to engage in this type of discussion
what, and get banned for sectarianism?
the left tells me there is too much plastic so instead i play with nature’s legos (rocks) and suddenly that means i hate fish???
The woke mob is telling me I can’t stack rocks any more? Literally 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451 COMBINED.
Insert awkward angle selfie with a bunch of rocks and a gun
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