The unsealed documents in the Epstein case have been released.

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    The list: (on mobile, did my best to fix formatting, I am not fixing line breaks)

    Andrew Albert Christian Edwards, -Prince Andrew

    James Michael Austrich

    Eva Andersson

    Juan and Maria Alessi, husband and wife working at Epstain’s home in Florida

    Janusz Banasiak

    Victoria Bean

    Rebecca Boylan

    Dana Burns

    Jean Luc Brunel

    Cate Blanchett

    Naomi Campbell

    Sharon Churcher

    Bill Clinton

    David Copperfield

    John Connelly

    Alan Dershowitz

    Dr Mona Devansean, -treated Virgina Roberts

    Dr Chris Donahue, treated Virgina Roberts

    Leonardo DiCaprio

    Cameron Diaz

    Glenn and Eva Dublin

    Ron Eppinger

    Daniel Estes

    Annie Farmer, accused Epstein of sexual assault

    Louis Freeh

    Alexandra Fekkai

    Fredrick Fekkai

    Jo Jo Fontanella

    Crstyal Figueroa

    Tony Figuerioa

    Eric Gany

    Meg Garvin

    Sheridan Gibson-Butte

    Ross Gow, Maxwell’s press agent

    Al Gore

    Fred Graff

    Robert Guiffre

    Philip Guderyon

    Alexandra Hall

    Dr Carol Hayek

    Dr John Harris, -treated Virgina Roberts

    Joanna Harrison

    Shannon Harrison

    Stephen Hawking

    Victoria Hazel

    Brittany Henderson

    Brett Jaffe

    Michael Jackson

    Forest Jones

    Sarah Kellen, Epstein’s former assistant

    Carol Kess

    Dr Karen Kutikoff

    Paul Lavery

    Dr Steven Olson

    Stephen Kaufmann

    Wendy Leigh

    Dr Judith Lightfoot

    Peter Listerman

    Tom Lyons

    Dr Darshanee Majaliyana,- treated Virgina Roberts

    Nadia Marcinkova

    Bob Meister

    Jamie Melanson

    Lynn Miller

    Marvin Minksy

    Donald Morrell

    David Mullen

    David Norr

    Joe Pagano

    May Paluga

    Stanley Pottinger

    Tom Pritzker

    Detective Joe Recarey, investigated reports of sexual abuse against children by Epstein

    Chief Michael Reiter, responsible for investigation of sexual abuse against children by Epstein

    Bill Richardson

    Rinaldo and Debra Rizzo

    Sky Roberts

    Kimblerley Roberts

    Lynn Roberts

    Virginia Roberts, now known as Virginia Roberts Giuffre, accused Prince Andrew of sexual assault

    Haley Robson

    Dave Rodgers, private jet pilot for Epstein

    Alfredo Rodriquez, butler at Epstein’s Florida home

    Scott Rothinson

    Forest Sawyer

    Dough Schoetlle

    Johanna Sjoberg, claims she was sexually abused while underage by Epstein. Also claimed Prince Andrew touched her breast.

    Kevin Spacey

    Cecilia Stein

    Marianne Strong

    Mark Tafoya

    Emmy Taylor, Maxwell’s ex-personal assistant

    Brent Tindall

    Kevin Thompson

    Ed Tuttle

    Donald Trump

    Les Wexner

    Cresenda Valdes

    Emma Vaghan

    Anthony Valladares

    Christina Venero, licensed massage therapist

    Maritza Vazquez

    Dr Wah Wah, treated Virgina Roberts

    Vicky Ward

    Jarred Weisfield

    Sharon White

    Courtney Wild

    Bruce Willis

    Daniel Wilson

    Mark Zeff

    • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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      There is a whole lot of female celebrities on there. Is the implication that they visited this island to potentially indulge in the abuse as well?

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        People in this list:
        Victims
        Case detectives
        Doctors
        Staff at assorted Epstein residences
        Rich folk that knew Epstein enough to have been invited to the island.

        Some may have been potential victims, involved in Hollywood nepotism or money fuckery. But they are tainted by association.

        Remember Epstein didn’t kill himself. Those that did it did it in broad daylight and didn’t get caught (yet). So I’d be surprised if the worst offenders are even on the list at all.

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    Nothing “allegedly” about it, they ARE linked. Whether or not they did anything wrong (and they almost certainly did), being mentioned in those court documents is literally a link to Epstein.

    You’d think that someone writing for NPR would at least be literate enough to understand what all the words they use mean…

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      Linked includes victims and people who didn’t take the bait. Keep that in mind before you set up the guillotine

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        Whether or not they fully “took the bait”, powerful men who hung out with Epstein are all scumbags. The ones who did after his first conviction or otherwise finding out, at least.

        And of course I don’t consider people linked to him through victimhood the same as the powerful men I was talking about. No good faith reading of my comment could possibly suggest otherwise.

        Keep that in mind before you set up the guillotine

        Nah, fuck that. No man rich and influential enough to join the upper echelon of the New York and Florida socialite scene where Epstein found customers didn’t either step on or at least ignore a lot of innocent struggling people to get there. I say they’re all about a head too tall.

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          Whether or not they did anything wrong (and they almost certainly did)

          And of course I don’t consider people linked to him through victimhood the same as the powerful men I was talking about. No good faith reading of my comment could possibly suggest otherwise.

          Don’t really know how you can take this in a good faith understanding. You’ve literally just said that any name appearing in the document almost certainly did the wrong thing. Just acknowledge that there is necessary nuance here - some people named in that document have done nothing wrong.

          Obviously, for anyone that underwent business or other dealings with Epstein, while knowing what we was: burn them. But the guillotine should never be indiscriminate.

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            You’ve literally just said that any name appearing in the document almost certainly did the wrong thing

            No, I was talking about the powerful men mentioned in the headline. Why would you think I’d widen it beyond that without saying so?

            Just acknowledge that there is necessary nuance here - some people named in that document have done nothing wrong.

            Of course. Just so happens that some if not all of the powerful men being alluded to in the headline have abused children and the rest have done a lot of awful things to attain their wealth and power.

            Obviously, for anyone that underwent business or other dealings with Epstein, while knowing what he was: burn them

            That’s what I’m saying!

            But the guillotine should never be indiscriminate.

            Agreed.

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      Allegedly is just a way to avoid getting sued. They know what they’re doing. Sure, if they’re on the list, that could be argued it’s not alleged that they’re tied together in some form, but at least this will keep anyone from attempted to sue them over it. And all they had to do was wiggle their fingers a few more times to add that extra word.

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        I know why media (say they) use “alleged” all the time, but this doesn’t apply.

        It’s by definition a link. Whether it’s a significant link is another matter, but no court would be so ridiculous as to accept a lawsuit based on a misunderstanding of what the word “linked” means.

        if they’re on the list, that could be argued it’s not alleged that they’re tied together in some form

        The list itself is a link. Whether it’s a link that means anything is yet to be revealed, but it’s beyond a shadow of a doubt and in every legal sense a link.

        this will keep anyone from attempted to sue them over it.

        No it won’t. There was already precisely zero risk of it.

        The only thing they’re achieving by adding “alleged” to this headline is to annoy people who know what words and concepts are and then spur a lot of people to tell those already annoyed people things the annoyed people already know and have been reminded of every time they’ve pointed out misuse of “alleged”.

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          Donald Trump. That’s all you need to know. And no, I’m not being sarcastic. Fuck that guy, and any waterhead inbreed and wanna-be tough guy who worships him.

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            Nah, other monsters don’t get off the hook just because Trump is the worst amongst them. Fuck Trump most of all, but fuck the other abusers too.

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                Wtf are you talking about? You’re the one pretending that Trump is the only powerful man on the list.

                Also, if you could drop the ableism, that would be swell.

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          Sure. If you feel they have some vendetta against their readers and wanted to annoy you, feel free to make that claim. Sure sounds like you’re a very stable person assuming that title was purposefully written to annoy people because [reasons].

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            If you feel they have some vendetta against their readers and wanted to annoy you

            Incompetence and ignorance don’t have to be deliberate to be annoying. Especially when they happen often. I happen to expect better of those who are paid to inform people of breaking news. Being annoyed ≠ thinking it’s about me or otherwise deliberate.

            Sure sounds like you’re a very stable person assuming that title was purposefully written to annoy people because [reasons].

            Again, never said that. You sure sound like a very sincere person, waving around the strawman you constructed to dismiss my rational argument as paranoid ramblings.

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      There are victims, witnesses, and innocent associates listed in the same document. The men powerful enough to force the removal of their names from the list have already done so. This document is not a list of just pedophiles, but only a list of people associated with him.

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        Quite right.

        Never forget that Epstein did not kill himself and was murdered in damn near public-light.

        Absolutely abhorrent that rich trash billionaires can just exist above the law.

        E. For the intellectually dishonest and incompetent, most of Epsteins black book was not included in the court documents.

        Maybe read through them before you guys pretend like you know what’s in them.

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      Are you aware the list contains associates AND victims?

      I agree with ZERO tolerance for pedos, but your blind violent rage is how victims get hurt further.

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      unfortunately a name on a list doesn’t prove much. Anyone can make a list of names, label it “evil people” and leave it for authorities to find. They can even put people they don’t like on it without them knowing…overall I’m sceptical of a “magic list of rich powerful criminals”.

      For anyone who is found guilty, sure we can behead them…just don’t start with the one attached to the neck.