Senators skeptical of legal trouble for harmless masking after moving to make it illegal.
  • intelisense@lemm.eeEnglish
    167·
    6 months ago

    What if you are severely immuno-compromised during a pandemic? Just die, I suppose?

    • Stovetop@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1621·
      6 months ago

      Better that than to hurt the feelings of someone who cares a whole lot about people wearing masks.

      • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        51·
        6 months ago

        From reading the article, I get the impression that this bill is mostly about them wanting to be able to arrest protesters who wear masks to hide their identity.

        Which is still really shitty, to be clear.

        • deathbirdEnglish
          6·
          6 months ago

          It’s so stupid. Like, if the protesters do something illegal (actually illegal that is) then even if they have a mask on you can arrest them and make them take it off for mugshots. Also medical masks don’t really cover enough of the face to prevent identification.

          • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            1·
            6 months ago

            Right, but any kind of “you can’t wear a mask in public” law is easily evaded if there’s a legal exception for wearing one for health reasons.

      • puppy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        281·
        6 months ago

        But here I thought Republicans only cared about facts, not feelings. . .

        • kescusay@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          20·
          6 months ago

          The Republican claim on hard-nosed, reality-based reasoning is just so astoundingly mendacious. I find myself legitimately perplexed over the whole thing.

          I mean, the guys who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, trickle-down economics work, ectopic pregnancies are a gift from God and mustn’t be stopped, vaccines are poisonous, life doesn’t evolve, and Donald Trump was a good president are the down-to-Earth realists? Is this performance art of some kind?

          How do people like that survive to adulthood?

    • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      81·
      6 months ago

      Or worse, what if you are a bit sick but need to go outside for a while? Just keep spreading the disease, I suppose?

  • foggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    911·
    6 months ago

    This would be a clear violation of ones first amendment right. Say it’s your religion.

    • themeatbridge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      951·
      6 months ago

      The courts have already set the precedent that there are preferred religions and religions that do not enjoy the same rights because the judges don’t believe in them. Our legal system is corrupt and unjust. We cannot count on the courts to protect our rights.

      • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        261·
        6 months ago

        Oh just call the TST for this one, even the constitutional literalists cant weasel their way out of that one.

      • foggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        6 months ago

        Not…really? Not in this context, anyways.

        You cannot compel a person to remove their hijab, anywhere in the US, for example.

          • foggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
            215·
            6 months ago

            Yes cops are bad. We all know. You don’t fight cops at your arrest for justice. You fight in the court.

            You’re missing the point entirely.

            Jfc room temp IQs in this thread.

            • WraithGear@lemmy.worldEnglish
              61·
              6 months ago

              You don’t win fights against cops in court. Best case scenario, the public pays the cost to cover your suit.

              But your point was that people have rights in the US. My point is a right on paper but at the discretion of the police, is in practice, not a right.

            • conditional_soup@lemm.eeEnglish
              32·
              6 months ago

              Qualified immunity called me while you wrote this. It didn’t say anything, it was too busy laughing.

                • conditional_soup@lemm.eeEnglish
                  21·
                  6 months ago

                  Qualified immunity more or less means that the cops can’t be held directly liable for something that the courts haven’t yet found to be wrong for a police officer to do while in the course of their duties. So, if a cop does something obviously wrong and fucked up in the course of their duties (like, say, detaining you in a car parked on railroad tracks) and you suffer injuries from it, but a court hasn’t previously found that exact situation to be a wrong thing for a police officer to do, qualified immunity prevents them from being held personally accountable. The next person who gets detained on railroad tracks is covered, but you’re shit outta luck.

                  I know what QI is about, the comment has more to do with fighting the cops in court when courts meet all manner of egregious police behavior with little more than stern finger wags and exasperated sighs at best (often. Very rarely, they actually do get held accountable) and endorsement at worst.

  • 3volver@lemmy.worldEnglish
    692·
    6 months ago

    Banning masks is authoritarian fascist shit, especially masks that protect you from spreading contagious illnesses. Ridiculous, one year we’re all told we need to wear masks to protect one another, next year we’re told that it’s illegal? Fuck off government, fuck off.

    • Maple Engineer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      292·
      6 months ago

      In one case it was experts trying to save lives. In the other it’s white nationalist christofascists virtue signaling to their crushingly ignorant base.

  • Marighost@lemm.eeEnglish
    533·
    6 months ago

    There are active KKK chapters in NC. There is also a Proud Boys presence here (they’re known to wear masks).

    I wonder, will they be exempt from this? (I know the answer, of course. Republicans will protect their own.)

  • robocall@lemmy.worldEnglish
    45·
    6 months ago

    I know someone that recently got a heart transplant. They wear a mask, and take many other precautions so that their immune system doesn’t reject the heart. They aren’t being overly cautious - they are actually at risk. I can’t imagine a government trying to arrest them for wearing a mask.

    • Pretzilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
      162·
      6 months ago

      NC Republicans aren’t a government

      At best they are a christofascist theocracy

    • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 months ago

      This entire scenario (the mask banning) is ridiculous. Political games like this are the worst.

    • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      6 months ago

      I can’t imagine a government trying to arrest them for wearing a mask.

      Imagination isn’t your strength, is it? If such a statute was placed, I can definitely imagine a cop not giving a fuck about a serious medical issue. As if they used reason or had empathy.

  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    433·
    6 months ago

    My little niece just turned 19. Weeks before her birthday, she was diagnosed with cancer and is currently going through chemo.

    These people can go to hell if they think they can put her even more at risk because of whatever shitty agenda they’re pushing.

    Party of freedom… fuck you, fucking fascists.

      • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2·
        6 months ago

        Thank you. She’s an incredibly talented writer and ridiculously creative, thoughtful, & kind. She was only just starting to live her life independently, and it was ripped away from her with the diagnosis.

        We need to advocate for those who struggle to / are unable to do so for themselves.

    • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 months ago

      I’m severely immunocompromised. Let them try and get the mask off my face. I’d prefer to hit them with my cane, but in all honestly, it would be more effective to sue them on federal ADA violations.

  • Dendr0@fedia.io
    33·
    6 months ago

    “For health reasons” - if that’s what they choose to enforce, well then… looks like every day just became Halloween.

    “No officer, Im not wearing this Ronald Reagan mask for my health, I’m celebrating Halloween” “Yes, officer, in May”.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      21·
      6 months ago

      I’m in VA. For a bit it seems like we would be a future blue state. Now we have a porn ban and Marijuana legalization, which was passed by democrats, has been effectively stalled. Possession is legal, and you can grow a small amount for personal use, but our republican governor blocked the creation of a legal market.

      Republicans can get fucked. I hope that this obvious not listening to their constituents costs them in the future, but I’m really not sure. People need to vote, and not just for president.

  • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    26·
    6 months ago

    Let them try … I’m a cancer survivor with a compromised immune system. They can fuck right off and I’ll be filing an ADA complaint.

    • GluWu@lemm.eeEnglish
      191·
      6 months ago

      They will, they will make hundreds, maybe thousands of arrests knowing full well its unconstitutional. But it’ll take a year or two to work through courts at which point the courts will be completely controlled by Project 2025 magats.

      • NovaPrime@lemmy.mlEnglish
        53·
        6 months ago

        Disagree. Even if this goes through, it reads more like a liability waiver: it’s power is more in the chilling effect vs. actual teeth in enforcement