• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Someone should saw off the legs of the techbros that came up with the idea of removing the headphone jacks from phones. Just like the headphone jacks, legs are technologically “superseeded” by cars and electronic wheelchairs.

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      Think they do it to save like 10 pence on tens of thousands of phones, but that’s what happens when you are legally required to chase profit and the only way to do it is to enshitefy your product

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        And then you can sell USB-C -> Jack converters (which break after a while - I’ve dismantled one for recycling for my Raspberry Pi, later I might make one epoxy potted for my phone), easy to lose wireless earbuds, etc.

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          If the fucking usb c audio was at least consistent, but no, the dongles are different and the phones are different, good luck trying to not blow up ypur phone by buying the wrong accessory (I blame the spec, not that I’ve read it)

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        They did it to improve water resistance and to sell the more expensive wireless earpods.

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          2 months ago

          which don’t really matter unless the difference allows your phones to survive a full cycle in a washing machine. So far many phones which removed the headphone jack still does not.

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      I wouldn’t mind if they replaced TRRS with a better connector. I get that the jack is a large part and it’s difficult to seal against water ingress. The wiper contacts on it are also unreliable, and the plug doesn’t release well when your cord snags.

      Multiplexing headphones with my one and only charging port is absolutely the worst possible answer.

      (Did i forget to mention that I want it to be an open connector? One that any vendor can make without Apple’s permission?)

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        (Did i forget to mention that I want it to be an open connector? One that any vendor can make without Apple’s permission?)

        Apple ditched Lightning last year. All iPhones from the 15 forward are USB-C.

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      Meh, I haven’t really missed it as much as I expected. The one and only (pretty minor in my case) issue I’ve run into is not being able to charge the phone while connected to the car’s stereo. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if you could just use a usb-c splitter to do that.

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      I did a arm chair calculation and the money saved on not having a headphone jack at 0.10pence per peice, and found that they didn’t spend 200,000 quid on headphone jacks. (I read that since iphones after 6 don’t have it, so that’s 28 models of phone, that’s millions of phones, so I guessed 2million phones multiplied by 0.10 which gave me 200,000.)

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      I’ve literally never used the headphone jack on a phone in 10 years.
      And I wonder how many would still want it back if they realized the phones then were bricked after getting submerged in water like they used to.

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        There are many phones with a headphone jack that have an IP68 rating which invalidates your whole point. If the headphone jack was so compromising then Apple would have needed to remove the charging port as well.

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          many phones with a headphone jack that have an IP68 rating which invalidates your whole point

          Typing on one right now.

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          A sick and twisted part of me wants to see charging ports removed too. Every port! Make it IP69+ compliant. Maybe then the careless kids I know might keep a device alive for more than a year. Ultimately all that would do is barely solve one problem and introduce a whole lot of other problems.

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        Phones became waterproof before removing headphone jacks became a trend. You’re talking nonsense.

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        About 10 years ago I used headphones daily, now I do so just frequently enough that it’s irritating to realize I need to purchase a dongle just to do so and go “well I guess I’m not listening to music/podcasts right now”

        What I learned when working for a phone manufacturer is that the headphone jack usage varies by product segment. Cheaper phone users use the headphone jack far more frequently than premium phone users, so they’d keep it on the budget models but drop it on the higher end models. They also did similar with NFC and wireless charging which was interesting…

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        I’ve literally never used the headphone jack on a phone in 10 years

        We understood that as soon as you said “literally”.

        I’ve not used on*star, a fire extinguisher or a #2 pencil in a while either, but I bet they’re important. Beware false consensus.

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        I do. I don’t use wireless headphones, and the dongle sucks. And hate having earbuds with a proprietary jack I can’t use elsewhere. Plus I used my iPhone as a synth/drum machine and needed to charge and play at the same time.

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        Most people don’t use them and never did, all the people downvoting are just salty because they’re not the target audience.

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              Nope.

              if they realized the phones then were bricked after getting submerged in water like they used to.

              This is not subjective, it’s objectively false.

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                  So we agree, you were wrong about it “all being subjective opinion.”

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                    No, something being objective or not is still someone’s opinion ultimately. And there’s still no right or wrong. There’s subjective and objective, though.

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      Most people don’t care, don’t use it and it saves cost and thickness. I think they are smarter than you on this.

      You are not their target audience, they know there’s not enough of you for it to make a difference.

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        It saves an amount of money so minuscule it literally makes no difference.

        As for thickness, the iPhone 15 is 7.8 mm thick. You cannot in good faith believe that a 3.5 mm headphone jack can’t fit in it.

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          Wouldn’t they have to sacrifice like three* minutes of battery life or something though? Everything packed sooo tightly.

          *or 10 or 30, somebody here probably can make a really good educated guess

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            Depending on the internal design of the phone, maybe.

            But batteries are rectangular and they can’t put them EVERYWHERE. There are places (such as near the USB port) where you can’t really put battery no matter what because there have to be things that would interfere with the rectangular battery.

            So it might have an effect, but not necessarily, depending on design, and it might be smaller than you’d think.

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        Wouldn’t be surprised if they have trackers on the iPhone to survey if ppl use the headphone jack 😂