Huh that’s gotta be the highest upvoted article critical of Ukraine regime i seen here.
Either libs are already in the inevitable process of transforming from “kill ruZZian orcs” to “we never supported that war” or we are just out of peak hours for lib brigades.
It really isn’t that far of a reach to support ukraines fight for sovereignty but also detest forced conscription.
It’s not one or the other.
No! Two things are never allowed to be true at the same time!
Every man who gets away stays alive to rebuild later. Every man who gets caught extends the war and dies for nothing.
It’s super hard to get away now…
Zelensky’s regime may have troubles with keeping the eastern border safe, but the western one is defended like no other (that is, from people trying to escape of course).
And the bribes to get out legally are more than 10k$… For lots of us (especially for people living in villages) this is an amount of money we’ve never seen in a lifetime.
we had to use coyotes when we left mexico for the united states and that experience has left my entire family in desperate need of psychological counseling for the last 5 decades.
my heart breaks for the people who have to do something similar.
Itt liberals reveal that their is no depth of casual fascist bloodthirst they won’t plumb. Pretending to care about Ukranians while they cheer for them getting rounded up and used as meatshields in a lost war.
The western supremacists are willing to sacrifice every Ukranian civilian, to push NATO east.
I think that most is against poor Russians dying in the same way, in the same lost war
Exactly, the only reasonable and humane position is to end the bloodshed with diplomacy immediately
lol no they aren’t; they spent the last year calling Russians orcs and celebrating their deaths; don’t give libs the benefit of the doubt; they’re warping into modern day Nazis.
They applauded an SS veteran!
There’s still a nightlife in Kyiv? The war there is worlds apart from what’s happening in Gaza. Gaza hasn’t had electricity or water for a year now.
That’s not a war though, it’s a genocide
Yes but Blinken said Russia is committing genocide so la la la la la I cant hear you!!!
Slava ukrainazis!!!
Just today Zaluzhnyi (ex AFU Commander-in-Chief) said that if needed, they will start mobilizing (so kidnapping from the streets, etc.) women too.
And then it finally going to be a proper, total genocide of Ukrainians…
I am sure there are no red lines for Zelensky’s regime now… He can start murdering kids, and it will be met with western applause…
@poVoq@slrpnk.net how many more Ukrainians are going to have to be murdered by the regime for you to be happy?
You’re finally admitting that the Russian invasion is murder?
do you admit ukrainian shelling of the breakaway republics was mass murder? or do they not count bc they speak the wrong language?
I’m talking about the murder of people who are being gang pressed into fighting by the fascist regime the west installed and people like you support.
Isn’t umm fighting against invasion is required by law for most countries?
Sometimes the law is wrong, and following it is wrong
Dying for nothing in a lost war is one of those times
Weird way to justify people being forced to fight into something they clearly don’t believe in or have any interest defending.
Sadly law isn’t arbitrary
law has nothing to do with morality
That’s wildly incorrect lol
@yogthos For any western liberal that is cheering on this bloodshed on behalf of Western capitalist powers, I invite you to jump on a plane and pick up a rifle.
This conflict has only two outcomes. A peace deal through negotiations as with any war in history, or WWIII.
Sadly, the American stance “we will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian” is the reality. Once the smoke clears, if there was a victory, it will be the property of Western interests like Black Rock.
Seriously, wish all these people would just sign up for the foreign legion and put their money where their mouth is.
ITT people that claim they hate trump have the same opinion on one of the biggest political issues for the same reason, they love Russian expansion.
Behold the incredible depths of liberal analysis.
Understanding so shallow you need Low-angle X-ray Diffraction to quantify it
Ok, but like realistically what do you think the outcome in this war is? Do you think there is a realistic path forwards in which Ukraine beats Russia?
If your answer to that is yes, then I don’t know what to say to you. Ukraine is getting overrun by material and people from its much larger opponent. The only way to tip that balance is the rest of nato going hot(er) and joining the war and then we have ww3 - which I hardly need to point out the devastating consequences of for the whole world.
If your answer to that is no, then what does conscription of men and the continuation of the war achieve? Other than greater suffering, death and destruction. How can that be good? I don’t want Russia to win per-say, this is a brutal war between two reactionary powers. But I do wish for all the civilians in the affected area that the war stops, so their children will stop being killed in the collateral and they can stop sacrificing their sons and fathers to the meat grinder. It is clear that Ukraine isn’t winning so the path to peace is Russia wins.
Russia winning is the most good realistic outcome.
Liberals don’t understand words, only tone example 900028261
That’s one take. Recently a bigger focus has been on how these men are avoiding their duties as citizens to protect their country, way of living and freedom. But draft dodging is fine from a pacifist point of view.
Better that than being lured into a war as the Russians do.
Edited to way of living to help the literally ones
bigger focus has been on how these men are avoiding their duties as citizens to protect their country, lives and freedom
How would they be protecting their lives by going into a war zone? And if their freedom was important they wouldn’t be getting pressed into service; as for protecting their country, no one cared that they were shirking that responsibility when they allowed Azov militia members to kill ethnic Russians (who identified as Ukrainian until they were being ethnically cleansed) without defending that part of their country. Why weren’t Ukrainians defending that part of the country?
If you’re not ready to protect life and freedom by getting blown up within a week of arriving at the front in an unwinnable war you’re a bad person.
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You’re a living meme lmao
Who mentioned Korea?
I did
