“Is any of the s--- Trump says real?” Stewart asked. “How are we supposed to understand what’s bulls--- and what isn’t?”
  • fossilesqueEnglish
    131·
    5 hours ago

    To be perfectly honest, I’m worried about what the US will do once their political capital weekens more internationally while they sit on the 130 odd military bases abroad in 55 foreign potentially ‘hostile’ (to US interests) territories (if they don’t eat their own first ofc). Public trust has already embraced it’s fundamentally rotten core and rightfully so. The social contract is in shreds between the government and it’s people. Something will crumple and it will be ugly. I don’t think Kamala is much of an answer either, but at least it may buy time for circumstances to change. Americans have to learn to live with each other, one way or another.

    • shikitohno@lemm.ee
      7·
      3 hours ago

      Americans have to learn to live with each other, one way or another.

      Honestly, I often think Americans need to learn to live apart from each other these days. I’m very skeptical of the notion that the US can ever function as a coherent political unit again, and it might be better for all to just cut bait and move to an EU-esque free movement regime. Let New England, the South, the Midwest, the West Coast and whatever Alaska and Hawaii want to be each be their own independent countries, but any citizen of one has the right to move to any if the others and work immediately. If Republicans want to enact their own little Handmaid’s Tales in the deep South, they can go for it, but no moaning when women and POC decide to move elsewhere. The non-GOP hellscape regions can implement social safety net programs to allow anyone who wants to leave the conservative regions to do so, regardless of financial means, knowing they will have housing, food and healthcare when they get to a civilized country.

      It really feels like some backwards regions are holding the whole country hostage at this point.

      • fossilesqueEnglish
        4·
        1 hour ago

        You’ll still need respect for that to happen, which is what I’m referring to by “living together.” Don’t have to be friends, but you got to compromise somewhere.

  • Fuck Yankies@lemmy.ml
    28·
    11 hours ago

    Well of course he is… him and his kind are the first ones to be round up in the camps-I mean… the voter fraud testing center and family firing range.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
      17·
      8 hours ago

      Yeah a classic. For additional context, Crossfire was cancelled about a week after that and Tucker Carlson never wore a bowtie again.

  • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
    831·
    15 hours ago

    Jon getting serious is kinda scary and rightfully so. He’s worried like the rest of us but likely has a better idea of what’s coming should Trump win. He’s a smart dude.

    • psycho_driver@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 hours ago

      He’s a very smart dude. I wish he’d run for a high political office. People like him are the ones we need in there.

    • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
      351·
      11 hours ago

      The thing that really bugs me is that Trump has told everyone exactly what he’s going to do, but no one seems interested.

      He’s been very clear that he’s not going to concede, and that he has legal challenges ready to go. The election isn’t going to be won or lost on votes in swing states, but who can provide the most pressure on officials in those setting states.

      I have this sinking feeling that he’s going to be declared winner through corruption and manipulation, the dems will say “oh well fiddlesticks”, and the western world will start matching towards fascism.

      As in, Kamala is talking about medical records and Trump is planning insurrection.

      Just like the investigation into Russian interference, and all Trumps legal stuff. “Yeah well he’s guilty as sin but you know - what are you gonna do”.

      • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
        152·
        10 hours ago

        the western world will start matching towards fascism.

        Continue marching, you mean? That ship sailed years ago.

  • NineMileTower@lemmy.world
    75·
    15 hours ago

    Jon Stewart would be put to death if Trump had his way. To quote Mort Goldman, “Save Jon Stewart, he’s our most important Jew!”

  • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    117·
    16 hours ago

    This is the story that we need to be focusing on until election day. None of the other stunts matter. If anything this post should be pinned. We should keep our eye on the ball even if the media won’t.

    Trump threatened to send the military and the national guard after people on the left and Democratic politicians. This is blatant and open fascism. In any other election Trump being openly fascist would be the October surprise. Everyone needs to see this.

    • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      4 hours ago

      Trump, the whining tiny-penised cunt who nobody likes because of how brittle his bones are, has threatened to round up his critics into camps?

    • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
      18·
      12 hours ago

      He’s not even phrasing it as a threat, for him it’s just an “obvious solution” to a problem he made up. He doesn’t even see it as something serious so he doesn’t threaten us with it.

      Which makes what he is saying even more scary. Imagine what is he NOT saying and that he thinks would be a threat? Fuck, as someone on the other side of the pond I hoped I could show my support to my fellow Americans but this will fuck us all in the end.

      • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        6·
        4 hours ago

        To paraphrase Trump, he said if elected, he will send the military and national guard after his political and ideological opponents.

        That’s a threat. It’s phrased as a threat. The fact he’s says it calmly doesn’t matter. This is what fascists do. They identify an out group. They stir up public fear and resentment against the out group. They make promises to their supports, in the form of threats of violence against the out group, to get rid of the out group. Then historically speaking they make good on their threats to the best of their ability once they take power.

        When fascists run out of the current out group they just find another way to divide the population and pick a new out group. As long as fascists want to cling to power they need an enemy. What Trump isn’t telling us is the next out group he hasn’t picked yet because he doesn’t plan that far ahead. The Haitian immigrant conspiracy was a spur of the moment thing that other people had previously come up with and told him about on the plane ride to the debate. If he ever needs a new group to fearmonger about he’ll just ask other fascists for ideas. edit: typos

        • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
          1·
          55 minutes ago

          I disagree with you that he phrased it as a threat but I’m not in the mood to argue semantics

          We’re 100% in agreement that this shit is scary af

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
      106·
      17 hours ago

      And he’s quite right to point out that the media loves obsessing over the dumb shit (like Palmer’s penis and McDonald’s) and spends far less time running down real shit.

      • bcgm3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        47·
        12 hours ago

        I respect that he points out that stuff too, but… Supply and demand, right?

          • bcgm3@lemmy.worldEnglish
            51·
            8 hours ago

            I agree with you about how it should be. I was merely pointing out how it is.

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
      431·
      16 hours ago

      Don’t exaggerate. We dont know that he intends to kill us. Maybe the National Guard is only meant to maim or seriously injured us.

      • ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        37·
        16 hours ago

        And it’s not all either. He’s only going to kill maim the Democrats. And black people. And brown people. And LGBT people. And women. And non-Christians. So, you know, as long as you’re not in one of those groups, you’ll be totally fine. For now. But maybe don’t get too comfortable.

          • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
            2·
            3 hours ago

            Only the pink-haired ones, the feminists, trans-women, those with terminally complicated pregnancies, the victims of abusive husbands beating them to death, those seeking medical treatment they can’t afford…

            So long as you’re healthy or wealthy, submissive and breedable, mindful and demure and all the other misogynistic ideas we make fun of because they shouldn’t be real and serious, you’ll be fine.

          • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            15 hours ago

            As long as they aren’t too mouthy and don’t get any ideas about autonomy. So, things like driving, having a credit card or a bank account…nah. And birth control or abortion? Don’t make me laugh.

      • Enoril@jlai.luEnglish
        5·
        11 hours ago

        When we should start to worry? When it’s too late?

        Young, I couldn’t comprehend how Hitler was elected, disgraced then could come back and how the people let that happening.

        Decades later, i really understand: complacency.

        Someone bringing the presidency position just casually say in front of the press that he want to hurt its opponent… In public.

        Imagine what he say in private, with all his yes men and psycho writer of project 2025 for example… And we know it’s not an accident, he reference hitler more than once… He is in admiration with dictators… he want to be one of them…

        Yeah, please “don’t exaggerate”.

        Don’t learn from the history. You’re lucky he is also stupid and old…

          • Enoril@jlai.lu
            1·
            2 hours ago

            Ho, sorry for my reaction

            I see so many people not grasping how serious the situation is (or just saying: he’s jockiiiing) that my blood boil. Also because last summer, I saw my grandmother cry while she was remembering how she lost her sister during the first days of the WWII (killed in her house due to the bombing of the train station nearby). She was 5~6 yo and her sister 10yo. All of that because people didn’t react strongly enough to stop a party and a crazy man.

            Good luck for the election