Am I lame for thinking Lincoln, while certainly having plenty to criticize, is not completely evil like these other fuckers? You know, in between emancipation and being pen pals with Marx.
Ehhh, Lincoln said that if he could bring together the union without freeing slaves, he would, and that if he could do it with freeing slaves, he would as well.
Don’t ask Lincoln what he thinks about natives though 💀
About Marx and Lincoln, they weren’t “pen pals” since there was no exchange of letters, Marx wrote to him not knowing the exact outcome and he kinda taken for granted the face value of emancipation. True, it was a good thing overall, but he honestly got carried by the enthusiasm, and do note that letter was written before the 13th amendment. And Lincoln was a prototypical succdem, dismissing the “Manifesto” outright, and serving the bourgeoisie while paying lip service to the working class struggle in Europe - sure he watched it closely to neutralize it in US.
So it can be summarised that Lincoln was definitely least evil of US presidents, but that is a low bar.
Wrong. FDR dismantled any semblance of revolutionary movement in USA by doing slight concessions then war economy combo and finally handing over everything to Dem party which of course resulted in Truman.
The one who died after 30 days did not do much as a president, but climbed to that seat over the dead bodies of natives.
Pretty spot on in regards to Lincoln and Marx’s correspondence. I’ve seen way too often people assuming that Lincoln was some sort of socialist sympathizer when really it was mostly inconsequential.
On that last note though, I’d still say FDR should take the top spot for US presidents, he at least wanted a multipolar world where the US, USSR and UK would share power.
Wasn’t the Five Eyes initially started as a joint wartime intelligence and codebreaking organization? Only after the cold war started did it turn into what it is now, that and Churchill’s push for a more united western block to stand against the Soviets.
he at least wanted a multipolar world where the US, USSR and UK would share power.
Wait what? Also what he did was 101 bourgeoisie class war - while endangered by revolution, first give some concessions* then make war. Fortunately this time the war was against nazis so nobody complains, but still.
Indeed, but he still chose to fully recognize the soviet union, and was the driving force for intervention against fascists in (then) a very isolationist America. His commitment to the tripartite alliance was obviously concerning to most of the political establishment in the US at the time, which is why they were ever so relieved when he died.
I mean yeah he definitely did not thought of USSR as an enemy. Still, he did nothing about it on a systemic level as evidenced by US actions after his death. And it was mostly irrelevant anyway, since logic of imperialism dictate otherwise, and end of WW2 brought with the one of the biggest changes ever, elevating USA to the top of imperialist order.
Am I lame for thinking Lincoln, while certainly having plenty to criticize, is not completely evil like these other fuckers? You know, in between emancipation and being pen pals with Marx.
Ehhh, Lincoln said that if he could bring together the union without freeing slaves, he would, and that if he could do it with freeing slaves, he would as well.
Don’t ask Lincoln what he thinks about natives though 💀
About Marx and Lincoln, they weren’t “pen pals” since there was no exchange of letters, Marx wrote to him not knowing the exact outcome and he kinda taken for granted the face value of emancipation. True, it was a good thing overall, but he honestly got carried by the enthusiasm, and do note that letter was written before the 13th amendment. And Lincoln was a prototypical succdem, dismissing the “Manifesto” outright, and serving the bourgeoisie while paying lip service to the working class struggle in Europe - sure he watched it closely to neutralize it in US.
So it can be summarised that Lincoln was definitely least evil of US presidents, but that is a low bar.
The second less evil is probably FDR (or that one guy that died 1 month after gettin elected and was not able to do nothing.)
Wrong. FDR dismantled any semblance of revolutionary movement in USA by doing slight concessions then war economy combo and finally handing over everything to Dem party which of course resulted in Truman.
The one who died after 30 days did not do much as a president, but climbed to that seat over the dead bodies of natives.
Pretty spot on in regards to Lincoln and Marx’s correspondence. I’ve seen way too often people assuming that Lincoln was some sort of socialist sympathizer when really it was mostly inconsequential.
On that last note though, I’d still say FDR should take the top spot for US presidents, he at least wanted a multipolar world where the US, USSR and UK would share power.
And when did that become five eyes?
Wasn’t the Five Eyes initially started as a joint wartime intelligence and codebreaking organization? Only after the cold war started did it turn into what it is now, that and Churchill’s push for a more united western block to stand against the Soviets.
Wait what? Also what he did was 101 bourgeoisie class war - while endangered by revolution, first give some concessions* then make war. Fortunately this time the war was against nazis so nobody complains, but still.
*And he was still almost couped because of that.
Indeed, but he still chose to fully recognize the soviet union, and was the driving force for intervention against fascists in (then) a very isolationist America. His commitment to the tripartite alliance was obviously concerning to most of the political establishment in the US at the time, which is why they were ever so relieved when he died.
I mean yeah he definitely did not thought of USSR as an enemy. Still, he did nothing about it on a systemic level as evidenced by US actions after his death. And it was mostly irrelevant anyway, since logic of imperialism dictate otherwise, and end of WW2 brought with the one of the biggest changes ever, elevating USA to the top of imperialist order.
Hmm, didn’t know that all, that’s for the info.
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But the CSA where traitours, the best thing the union ever did was kicking the shit out of them, thats like, the only rightfull war the US ever had
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He defeated the Confederacy, which we all know was the first true Socialist experiment! /s