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    TBH, I don’t blame her in the least. It’s hard enough for men. I can’t imagine what it must be like for women to endure misogyny on top of what men go through in STEM.

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    This is… so inefficient.

    She could have become an engineer (or whatever she wants), made videos about it, and made a big difference in many people’s lives, and had whatever personal life she wanted. Instead, she’s producing ‘entertainment’ that’s been replicated a bajillion times.

    I an happy for her personally, but this is such a loss to society and a huge ding against the education/work pipeline. I assume she would’ve rather gone into her chosen field if it wasn’t such a miserable grind. If it isn’t ‘worth the hardship’ for someone so brilliant, hardworking, charismatic, and everything to go into STEM, then the system she’s in is completely busted.

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      If it’s such a loss to society, perhaps something should be done about society’s economic structure and how it partitions rewards. Rather than throwing shade on someone for making an economically advantageous decision.

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    If you’ve got it, flaunt it.

    I hope she manages to set up an irrevocable trust that guarantees steady income for the rest of her life so someday she can quit sex work and just pursue art or something if she wants

    Hell, maybe it’ll turn out that sex work is her art and that is ok too

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      But my Puritan beliefs are more important than her well being!!!

      /s

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      Good for her but I can’t help but feel envious that paths and choices like this are basically exclusively only available to the opposite sex

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        it isn’t. there’s a lot of male OF models too, although their fans are probably mostly gay men. good news is, unlike performers from before online videos took off, you don’t really have to be “gay for pay”. OF models can get away with doing solo work as well.

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        you could argue that men have similar exclusive, lucrative paths that use their strength/athleticism and are also probably statistically similar rates of exclusivity within their sex. Like, not everyone will be a professional footballer just like not every onlyfans model makes livable income.

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          The mean earnings for OF is $150/month. Meaning it’s likely there’s a vast majority of people earning $50-100/month, and a vast minority earning $100k/month.

          With props, camera, lighting, editing “costuming” etc, you probably lose money doing it.

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          Not to mention, it’s definitely possible for men to have successful careers in sex work. I expect there are far fewer successful men in sex work, and they probably need to be ok with having a mostly male clientele. But it’s still possible.

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        Blame that on men being the only people willing to pay for it.

        That said there’s plenty of gay men out there willing to buy pictures of your ding dong if it’s photogenic enough.

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    I’ve done cursory research on this person, and my understanding is that she claims she will still be teaching science but only wearing sexy tops on. I don’t know how truthful that is but even some Olympic athletes said they are in Only fans but “only being sexy without showing”, in order to supplement their income. I don’t really fault people for this considering the worsening cost of living crisis.

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    Capitalism is a completely inefficient and unsustainable grift based on serving privileged white wieners.

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      Plenty of Chinese, black, south american weiners.

      There is no need to bring in race and divide us. We’re all getting fucked by the 1% regardless of skin color.

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    Complete the damn degree and then do what you want. At least your have a document to help you if the shit hits the fan.

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    I googled this story to, uh, fact check it, and found this article saying that her move to OF is fake news. Except, upon closer examination, it seems the article is AI slop and completely made up. How ironic.

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      So I’m reading this debunking, and

      Zara smartly leveraged the viral moment to confront the misinformation head-on and promote her YouTube channel, where her actual content lies.

      So I go to her YouTube channel https://youtube.com/@zara-dar and,

      Description
      STEM Gal and Model Austin, Texas.

      Message me:
      https://zaradarz.com/

      Most recent video is https://youtu.be/_uEG0H4RXcA where she says she is making an OnlyFans (I’m not going to watch the full 10 minutes so unless this is an elaborate prank that’s revealed in the end…)

      Go to https://zaradarz.com/ which is listed as her website on her YouTube channel

      STEM Gal | PhD Dropout | OnlyFans model

      Message Me 🌶️

      Go to the OnlyFans link https://onlyfans.com/zaradar/c3

      If you are a sapiosexual, this page is for you 😉 (Please click “more info” below 🥹)

      Texas-born and bred, engineer, Ph.D. dropout, and YouTuber. I’m a nerd with a passion for art, fitness, and reading.

      On this page, I share with you my artistically and beautifully curated exclusive content which includes a level of nudity and my love for erotica 📸. I love pushing my boundaries with you 😉.

      Also this Instagram page links to her website (the one mentioned on her YouTube) and is from at least as far back as December 2022 https://www.instagram.com/zara.darz/ which also mentions she is a 🌶️ Content Creator and links to an exclusive invite only Instagram page.

      And I’m just rereading your comment and seeing that you said the debunk article is AI slop, I thought you were saying that article called others AI slop lmao.

      Well, if anyone else misreads it they can also see this too now lol.

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    I watched the video and it is very convincing and honestly true on many levels. If you can earn much better money from being your own boss then why would you want to spend time with those assholes at work for less?

    I am doing it myself just not as successful and not porn because I like privacy.

    There is something strange about her and this whole thing though. I can’t help to think it’s all some kind of stunt or AI person idk. Something is uncanny. Maybe it is just the autism that radiates from her that throws me off and looks like AI.

    We live in the times when it is increasingly hard to tell what is real. And also honestly if she was compsci phd and machine learning expert at this level 1 million is nothing vs what potentially she could make right now with that background and shrewd. There’s so much money in this right now, you just don’t drop to do porn when we have second internet revolution for better or worse. Something doesn’t add up.

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      If I had to guess, I’d say her OF gig is far from a full time job. So she still has time to spare to work on what she enjoys, and the capital to start an actual business down the road.

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      I suspect it’s AI generated too. Look at her right shoulder after around the 30 second mark: https://youtube.com/shorts/Cks_9h9Nx_Q, it’s all jittery. Quite a cunning plan if that is the case though; carefully crafting a PhD persona and doing instructional videos for a year so men slowly fall in love, and then go full-bore on explicit content.

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        I think it may be the case of AI augmentation techniques. I do not think the whole person is artificial outright. The older the video the more clear it should be.

        What can we tell is 100% real is onlyfans money and someone actually being in front of the camera.

        Kinda makes you want to try to pull off something like this doesn’t it? Whether it is the case or not it really looks like an exciting way to make some money on the side.

        At least before such things become super common

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          Augmentation does make more sense indeed.

          Kinda makes you want to try to pull off something like this doesn’t it?

          With OnlyFans I don’t think I’ve a problem, yet. But lying about one’s identity they’re selling I do consider as immoral, so no.

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            I do not have such problems 😂 but I appreciate generally that there are way more people who are concerned with such things. Makes society possible probably. Let’s hope it never changes.

            However any perceived issues with lying about identity cannot be raised in the context of online porn. The lie is the key to the entertainment. End result is what matters with onlyfans. There is no deception where there wasn’t any truth from the beginning. Porn is deception. When someone treats it as real they become disordered and not aligned to the real world.

            Not to mention the family friendly YouTubers being very distant from the definition of “real”. You didn’t think they all present their real selves in front of the camera? Showbiz is all smoke and mirrors. There was never any real identity there.

            However yes this is probably the most wrong account you would want to have parasocial relationship with. Not that there are any right.

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    She probably gets treated more respectfully by her OnlyFans viewers than her co-workers in her PhD program.

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          Thats because everyone at an AI conference is going to be managment or sales.

          E.G. Salesforce has Two conferences every year. The dev one and the sales one. The dev one deals with legitimate development of Salesforce and new tooling. The sales one pushes AI on the unwitting.

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        Some of the comments you see on posts of young women announcing they’re “barely legal” and in the comments you’ve got >45 year old men saying what they’ll do.

        It’s just so creepy and unsettling.

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          Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?

          45 year old men making gross propositions is not at all unusual. And often those are the people deciding whether you have a professional future.

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            Just STEM in general. My wife almost left her engineering program because harassment came from the male students as well as the male professors. The handful of women in my engineering school all hung out together and moved as one. Strength in numbers and all that. It was really shit for them. Dudes would just yell “omg girls here???” anytime they walked into like any class. Some profs too.

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            Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?

            I can’t say that I have and my comment was in no way meant to that it doesn’t happen to them.

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              That doesn’t apply when you’re a PhD student and your supervisor is the tenured department head. You can try blowing everything up to pursue a sexual harassment case but that’s gonna be the end of your PhD.

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        gonewild and associate subs have been showing lots lots of admiration and body positivity for amateur posters.

        However, eventually all those subs turned into an onlyfans advertising platform, so maybe then the mood got spoiled.

        Previously it was unpaid art for unpaid audience, and was almost unbelievably wholesome.

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    I personally never understood dropping out when something like this happeneds. Like bro now you got the money to have the degree and not worry about paying it off. Might as well have it just to have it

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      Academia is misogynist enough without an OF account. She’s leaving a shitty job not just a low paying job.

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        As someone who didnt even pass their first year and dropped out, mind explaining whats involved in a PHD and why science ones are so grueling?

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          It’s basically just working for 6 years for not much pay while your friends who got jobs right out of undergrad are making at 3-5x as much.

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              And the work-life balance is atrocious.

              When I started, my advisor told me to not think of myself as an employee, but as a “researcher”. IE I don’t get to clock out, my life revolved around learning/reseaching

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              Generally no if we consider it from a financial perspective. Whether or not it’s worth it on an emotional level is very individual

              I work in engineering with a masters, and I make more than people with only a bachelors. However, even with the masters pay bump I am unlikely to ever make enough extra money to make up for the financial losses I incurred in getting the graduate degree. It’s only “worth it” financially if you work full time and have your company pay for the degree.

              PHDs make about the same amount of money and get about the same positions as someone with an only Masters. You get a PHD because you love studying and research enough to basically give up half of a decade of your life.

              I considered getting a PHD until I realized that >50% of the PHD students and graduates I spoke to described it as, “6 years of my life I’ll never get back”.

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      They drop out so they can do the other thing full time instead of part time…

      Especially because it’s porn. Gotta make as much money now while she can

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      With 2m instead properly you won’t have to work another day in your life, with 1m you won’t either but you might not be able to live in the buffet cities.

      Give me 1m and I’m retiring tomorrow.

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        How old are you and where do you live that you think thats enough to retire comfortably?

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          We were talking about winning the lotto at work once and I said with a million dollars I would probably quit if I could earn 5% interest on it to get 50k a year. My boss was like, that’s not enough you have to think about daycare and mortgage and car payments and everything. I then reminded him that I was currently making 30k a year. He stopped talking very quickly lol.

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          50k us is about what I make now and I’m in the suburbs.

          Invested safely that’s what I would make with 1m, with 2m I’m having the time of my life.

          I could have lived off that at any age as I’m currently making the most I’ve ever made by about 6k compared to my previous job…

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            The thing you may be forgetting to account for is inflation. 50k a year means your drawing the whole profit annually and in 10 or 20 years suddenly 50k is not enough to live on. You need enough in the fund to ensure it’s making more money than you spend so it can grow YoY and make more each year to cover inflation.

            Additionally, if you are not working you are paying 100% out of pocket for insurance. One health incident draws your savings below the amount you need to live off of.

            Right now they say not to retire at 60 unless you fully own your property and have over a million in your 401k. And that’s accounting for taking a loss to your social security payments past 67 due to early withdrawal and for out of pocket health insurance costs. If you are younger you need even more.

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              Insurance is a non issue for me, I used 50k USD as an example because it’s pretty close to what I make in CAD.

              With 50k I can pay my mortgage and be mortgage free in less than 20 years then I need way less than 50k to live, that’s also something people don’t take into consideration, once you’ve paid you’re debts and you just have to pay for food and taxes you’re left with way more than you’re used to. That’s not even taking into consideration the fact that you pay less taxes on capital gain in a lot of countries, so 50k in salary =/= 50k in capital gains!

              We’re in the process of buying a house based on my income alone, we’ll probably have refunded the 250k loan in 15 years tops, probably 12, then we start stacking to retire ASAP.

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          They said invested, not ‘put in a checking account and drawn down’. Even 5% returns would be 50k annually, which is already more than the median individual income. Actual return on the S&P 500 for the last 25 years has been around 8%.

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      In some ways I understand it though. I’m sure the pecking order and bragging rights of being one of the only fans people that makes enough money to classify yourself in like the top 5% of income earners in America is probably more thrilling and exciting than having a PhD.

      Plus, if she’s going for her PhD she probably already has her master’s degree so it’s not like she gave up academia entirely without getting anything from it.

      That being said, I still agree with you. If you were close enough to be in the program you might as well just finish it off. What’s it going to do, stop you from posting your photos on only fans?

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        Uhh…do you people know anybody who’s been through a phd program? How would you rate their happiness from 1 to 10 while they were mid-phd program?

        If that crap isn’t going to deliver them the world, it’s gonna be a reeeeeal hard sell to get em to put up with it.

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          This. I dropped out of my computer science PhD to start at the bottom of the industry in my early thirties.

          If you don’t have a clear love of academia, a PhD is a clearly unrewarding slog.

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            And if you can earn a million each year as an alternative, why wouldn’t you go for it? I love science, but we live in a real world, not in a dream, and this real world decided that science wouldn’t be rewarding.

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      You can always get that degree later when your income slows down. You’ll have more total money if you dedicate yourself full-time to the money-making endeavour.

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    Good for her! I’m sure it’s not easy to achieve that kind of success on OnlyFans, so clearly she made some smart moves to get where she is.

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        No, no sarcasm. The vast majority of OnlyFans creators barely make any money. This woman did something smart to achieve success.

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        I guess it depends on how easy you can be discovered. It’s easy to take off your clothes and get people to pay you to do it, but if you’re in a sea of 1000s of women doing the same thing are you seen?

        Same thing with being a YouTuber. Anyone can create a channel. It’s hard to make that channel worth something.

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          I’m sure “working hard” is way more important than being attractive on a platform where people pay to watch attractive women naked. Oh, wait…

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            Being attractive is a prerequisite, but not enough. There’s a lot of attractive women, not all of them make 1 mio. on OF.

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            Being successful anywhere requires hard work. You can be born into money, but you’ll have to work a lot to be a success yourself, not just a nobody with a lot of money coming from those that were successful. You can be born attractive (and that’s subjective anyway, people have a lot of different tastes and kinks) and without hard work, it’ll not be worth anything.

            No idea why you are being so patronizing and dismissive. Either you are bitter and lashing out, or you need a little bit more perspective and general empathy, as in capability to see the world not only from your personal point of view, and the capability to process that, too.

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              This reads like a typical white knight comment one might find on reddit. Lemmy is getting more and more disappointing every day.

              If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.

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                For someone who doesn’t have anything to discuss, you do have an awful lot to say and keep repeating. Suit yourself.

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                  I do have something to discuss. If you prefer to ignore my point then what can I say. Suit yourself.

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                If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.

                Someone sounds a little jelly. Seriously though, there are all kinds of people making way more money than that without doing a damn thing to justify a penny of it. The Internet allows niche means of making money simply because you can “sell” your products to thousands or even millions of people–in this case directly from the comfort of her home. There are plenty of other schemes out there that can be similarly lucrative if you’re good at what they want you to do.

                Clearly this woman is quite smart to be in that field in the first place, why wouldn’t she take the more lucrative route? Wouldn’t you?

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                  Not jealous at all, just disappointed I guess. I just can’t congratulate a person that had the skill/luck/whatever to get 1M with a minimum effort and they then decide to drop out of a job that could actually contribute something to society to do the banal and functionally useless job full time. It’s incredibly wasteful.

                  Also no, I wouldn’t go for the “lucrative” route if I already have more than enough money.

                  Finally, I have several friends that are phd students and you don’t have to be super smart to do that. You do need dedication though. But the same can be said for quite a few lines of work.

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    OnlyFans is suspicious af considering it’s not blocked in US states with porn bans. Some weird small group of people did a lot of hard work to effectively create a monopoly over porn in some U.S. states, users and creators should beware. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these onlyfans contents are marketing pieces.

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      As far as I understand it, the “porn bans” are actually laws that force strict ID requirements, not literally banning porn. (I’m not trying to debate whether they’re effectively porn bans, I’d agree they are.) So sites that are paid access only probably have an easier time proving they don’t let minors in.

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        Right, shifting the younger populations to the past of least resistance, and helping them form parasocial relationships which may be hard to break. Getting them while they’re young, so to speak.

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          Except you need to be over 18, and it’s easy to verify this if you’re paying with a credit card.

          Besides, what teenager can’t figure out how to use a vpn?

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      It’s not suspicious really. They apparently don’t operate in Florida due to those ID laws. It’s more so just that the states have targeted PornHub specifically for their bans to start with and since PH is owned by a conglomerate of sites similar to them, it’s affected many of those sites. Smaller sites remain unaffected often times.

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    Step one to becoming an Onlyfans star … be young

    Step two to becoming an Onlyfans star … have natural beauty