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I don’t know why the Danish PM would waste his time even talking to Traitorapist Trump. The whole world knows Trump is a notorious liar.
I don’t know why the Danish PM would waste his time even talking to Traitorapist Trump.
What ? Is there a gender thing I’m missing here?
As an European it’s pretty clear now that the US is our enemy. This is just the start. We really need to put our military in order and prepare for the inevitable attack.
The good news is we are a very stupid enemy
As an Australian I wish we’d negotiate to join the EU. Philosophically we have more in common with the EU then America and together is better.
But we cant even join with New Zealand and od not ne suporsed if the EU didnt want us, I’d not want us, though we do all seem to mostly hate immigrants so we have that in common :(
Side note, New Zealand can however decide to join us. The Australian constitution has a provision that a successful referendum in New Zealand admits them to the Federation.
Given the All Blacks record however this is unlikely.
Our previous governments have tied us to the US so tightly that we may as well be a US vassal state. Whatever America’s foreign policy is, is Australia’s policy. Our military is dependent on the US for its equipment.
It would be great to have more ties to the EU and SE Asian counties but thats unlikely to happen unfortunately.
The US is also the enemy of the US. Its worst one, in fact.
Damn americans! They ruined America!
They really did!
It’s impossible to catch up to the US war machine in 4 years only. We can only start the process, but I also doubt the US would sit by idly and let us become too powerful.
The nice thing is that Trump will replace our best generals and other leadership with utter incompetents.
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Not so. If a soldier is given an unlawful order, they are obligated to refuse it. If they decide to follow such an order, they are not innocent, it’s on their own heads, and I have zero sympathy for war criminals. Wanna guess how I can tell you never served?
You never served if you think disobeying orders is gonna blow over in the way you outlined here
Blow over? Who ever said anything about that?
It takes courage to be a conscientious objector, especially in the face of fascism. Many good men have been murdered for refusing orders to murder civilians. Despite the consequences, it’s the only ethical position possible.
Refusing unlawful orders is drilled into us in boot camp for damn good reasons. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
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Nobody said it was an unlawful order. Just a terrible implementation of bad planning due to “worse generals” which you were celebrating. And no I have no interest in your guessing.
Invading our allies in order to conquer territory is unlawful.
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Following me around now eh? I’m flattered.
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I owe you nothing.
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We dont need a large army to defend ourselfs. Just enough to deter.
We don’t really need the power to be able to attack the US. Just enough to be able to defend ourselves and that is far from impossible even in 4 years.
Attack the US?
You guys are crazy for even entertaining the idea.
Guess we can start by reaching the NATO spending goals
The industrial military complex tips its hat and smiles.
Don’t worry. The US may have the most experienced, well funded, and outfitted military on the planet, but the bafoons at the top keep getting in the way of the military executing a war the way it wants to.
See: Iraq 2, WMD boogaloo, or the cult classic Vietnam: Congress goes to war.
You really aren’t even joking at all. This is what happens when Congress gets out of the way of the military.
Dude has a channel dedicated to telling the unbelievable stories of what our soldiers have done when the leash comes off.
Warning: dude is a conservative, so his takes on socialism and communism are what you’d expect
I wasn’t kidding in the slightest. If the DoD had executed the second Iraq invasion it would have taken a few days. But Rumsfeld and his croneys insisted on it being done their way, and they didn’t know shit about fuck when it came to warfare. (Note: this may have been because Rumsfeld was lying and committing crimes that, had the military done things the way they wanted, would have been exposed.)
It is wild to think that EU-US relations might worsen because Trump wants to annex Greenland, jeez.
I believe that is therepublicans fascist’s actual goal
Could be. People need to realize how strong the EU can be if they act as one. Just observe how hard authoritarian regime tries to kill the EU.
Yurop monke stronk together
And above them, Putin
Ladies and gentlemen, the United States of America has gone rogue.
I love that the map in the article only labels a few locations, but one of them is the Gulf of Mexico.
Nice subtle dig at the man-baby.
And Panama, and The Panama Canal! ROFL
That’d be funny to see but the article fades out before any maps
Much love, thanks
Shame you can’t reach through a phone line and yank his vocal chords out
Worked just alright in Kung Fury.
“Wait a minute. I’ve seen that gesture before… Somewhere…”
Sorry for multiple posts, but my points are different.
Impose tariffs on Denmark? Do you all know what we import from Denmark? Medication and medical devices. So that would further increase the cost of healthcare in the US. He already signed an executive order to undo the $35 insulin cap for Medicaid recipients. He is actively raising healthcare prices.
Tariffs would only hurt both countries.
There is no way to impose tariffs on Danish goods. We’re part of the EU, and the inner market, so we’ll just send the goods from some other EU country. So any tariff on Denmark would have to be a tariff on EU.
Tariffs seem to be Trump’s go-to move nowadays. “Grab them by the wallet”.
- To Putin: stop the war or tariffs!
- To Europe: buy more US oil or tariffs!
- To Denmark: gimme Greenland or tariffs!
- To Melania (probably): pretend you can still bear being in the same room with me or tariffs!
- McDonald’s - “cash or card, sir?” “Tariffs!”
Oh, not his beloved McDonald’s.
Not “Grab them” but “Grab the US consumer”. Tariffs raise prices inside the USA. The target country only loses by being less competitive in the US market.
Trump wants to raise import taxes on goods from everyone, so only US goods are competitive. Trouble is the US has exported a bunch of manufacturing so it must import.
His voters still don’t seem to have figured out that just means things will cost them more.
it’s annoying that politicians don’t call it what it is: import tax.
It all makes sense when you accept that he’s been installed by our enemies to destroy the US.
No, actually he was installed by our oligarchs to destroy the country, so they can buy it for cheap. Just like last time!
Our
Enemies
Watch USAmericans go to war against russia instead of finally killing their slavers. They never learned who their true enemy is so far, lets hope this time is different.
Unlikely
Actually he was installed by incredibly stupid, shortsighted and/or far right people in a process called democracy 🤷♂️
When the media that people are shown is microtargeted and controlled by 2 billionaires who are buddies with Trump, you don’t have a democracy anymore.
Well, Trump isn’t something new. Everybody could see what he is in his previous term or before. There is also other media and social networks not controlled by oligarchy. Finding an excuse is hard, it’s not like - ouch, media is controlled. So again, stupidity, ignorance, greed and such.
…that were fooled by the oligarchy into believing in things like trickle-down economics and that a white poor person is superior to a brown poor person.
You gotta make better enemies.
We only have the best enemies!
It would hurt both countries, but Denmark can still sell their medication and medical devices to the rest of the world.
These tariffs in general are going to hurt Americans far more than anyone else.
You know what is from Denmark? Ozempic
It’s also an integrated EU economy, so I’d assume the entire European single market would retaliate.
But yeah, he doesn’t care about or understand that. Or at least won’t until there’s active unrest in America over the crazy inflation and layoffs.
Yes, to add you cannot impose targeted tariffs on Danish goods, as these are typically traded within the EU before going to the US.
Do you all know what we import from Denmark? Medication
Ozempic comes to mind. It’s still under patent, so I guess there’s no other source than Novo Nordisk in Denmark.
Do you think he cares?
That is very on brand for trump. Pissing off a former ally and messing up healthcare worse for “his own” country.
Not like trump cares about that
Tariff wars alway hurt all involved.
Wait he seriously undid the cap already??? Fucking for real?
Like I shouldn’t be surprised…
On Day One, iirc
https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=undo+insulin+cap+trump
many articles say that this didn’t happen.
https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=undo+insulin+cap+trump what are all these articles saying?
The US president spoke to Mette Frederiksen for 45 minutes last week
45 minutes? Yikes. Poor fella.
Just FYI. Mette Frederiksen is a woman. And a much more competent leader than Donald Trump.
Yes but that bar is so low not even a tardigrade would trip over it.
“Spoke at” more likely too
Yelled at. Probably about sharks or something.
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To be fair that’s only a couple of minutes of coherence
Said two things.
“ah, no”
…and then 40min of Trump rally speech with no coherency.
Hope the US empire goes crumbling down now that the fascist wanna be dictator is in power.
It will crumble, the question is will it crumble fast enough before its oil and gas fetish accelerates climate change too far.
I can’t wait for the US to enter the “find out” phase. It will take some time, sure, but heh, hubris always invites nemesis.
Yeah… Some country’s “find out” phase in history occurred only after unspeakable horrors were committed and the country was crushed jnto submission by an international coalition. So… Idk
Yea I dont think anyone is going to enjoy the “find out” phase of this one. Maybe Putin, if he lives that long.
The find out phase also might mean come countries with equally unhinged leaders feel emboldened to attack others, as countries start divesting from their US relations.
I just hope the rest of the world takes mercy on those of us US citizens who just wanna live our lives in peace.
I’m more thinking in terms of: if you turn your back on your friends, they will turn their backs to you. Specifically: NATO article 5 has been invoked only once in NATO’s history, after the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001. And we were there for you, no questions asked. Now your country is threatening a NATO ally. Tread carefully.
I mean, I have no say in what my country actually does. I highly disapprove of it all, in fact. But I would hope that if the rest of the world kicked in our door to stop our shit, that regular citizens like me wouldn’t be in danger of being shot or whatever. I just wanna live my life, man.
You have a lot more say in what your country does than any of us being threatened do…
Yeah, but how can I stop the dumbass in charge from doing shit that’s bad? I voted and he still got in.
I don’t have answers, sorry. Maybe just remind others who can vote that they need to and that any pain they feel is solely a result of that dumbass being elected, no matter who he tries to blame.
I don’t think that’s really how the world works in 2025.
Don’t worry. We’re working overtime on it.
The man is utterly deranged. During his last term, one of the few things I was grateful for was that he didn’t start a new war. Apparently, he’s planning to make up for that.
Trump ginning up beef with Greenland and Panama, for “security” and “defense” is all simply to grant geopolitical cover to Putin for Russia’s invasion and ultimate annexation of Ukraine. “Watch me do the same thing as Russia for the same reasons” gives the world a second Imperialist foil, regardless of Trump’s actual intent.
I don’t feel safe, so I’m going to take my neighbours land. Then the bastard says no, and tells me to leave. I came back with a few friends to tell him he has no choice, or we will take it by force.
Now all my neighbours are angry at me. I don’t understand it, I’m just trying to feel safe!
WWPW - What would Putin want.
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Eh, it seems to me there’s lots of way less galaxy brain ways to do that if your Trump. And he’s not exactly a mastermind.
Summary:
In a recent 45-minute phone call, U.S. President Donald Trump reiterated his demand for the United States to gain control over Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory. Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen firmly responded that Greenland is not for sale. According to European officials, the conversation was aggressive, with Trump threatening punitive tariffs against Denmark if it refused to relinquish control of Greenland. Frederiksen proposed enhanced cooperation on military bases and mineral exploitation in Greenland, but Trump dismissed these offers, insisting on full U.S. control. This development has heightened concerns in Europe about strained transatlantic relations, especially following Trump’s recent threats of heavy tariffs on the EU and demands for increased defense spending from NATO allies.
Why is Denmark even offering anything at all
Denmark is normally otherwise an ally of the US.
However, this call has spooked the Danes. There will 100% be escalations from the Danes to protect themselves as a result.
Everyone knows Trump is a dick, and the US is mega powerful. The debate in the rest of the world is how to deal with it. Using “honey” and using “vinegar” are both in the running. Honey remains more popular because chummyness is an old reflex with the US, and most well-to-do Westerners still don’t get what’s happening.
Dude probably thinks Trump is an actual business man and is over selling what he wants and actually wants something way less. That ain’t trump, no 5d chess here.
Art of the Deal.
well thats one way to increase nato spending
The US will be spending the next several decades building their reputation back up.
That ship has sailed. Long term partnerships and alliances are impossible if your country leaves them every other election cycle.
Uh… I think it’s never coming back.
We had our chance to course correct, and didn’t. And I suspect dems are either going to learn nothing and flop the next election, literally get suppressed by Trump, or get their own version of a “liberal Trump.”
Our social media is only going to get more toxic now, and it’s already dominating public discourse.
I dunno where you live, friend, but do not assume the US is digging its way out of this hole :(
Were you making the assumption that the US had a good reputation before that ?
Half of the world hated it outright and the other half was mostly just playing along because of its economic or military power and propensity to behave like a bully.
The only difference is that Trump is too stupid to do it quietly.
This is a fair point.
It will come back eventually. The Germans were Nazis for a while and we like them now.
Yea, but they were fixed by military, economic and political means. Nobody is big enough to fix the US.
The US is big enough to stop the US, we’ve done it before and I’m fairly certain Georgia is still flammable.
It would be nice to avoid a civil war (that would be more useful to enemies), but if you go to war with allies, it starts to become less unthinkable.
Nobody is big enough to fix the US.
Time to split the US then? East US gets to keep Washington DC, West US creates new capital city in Oregon?
Let’s go with a compromise nobody will be happy with and say Fresno.
Unless “fix” means “into a totalitarian neo-Maoist state”. If anyone defeats the US, they’re not imposing liberal democracy.
The Germans are currently having a fascist resurgence right now as well. I hope their elections go well where they can form functional coalitions.
Every coalition will involve the CDU/CSU (our conservatives) as the senior party. And their candidate for chancellor is already copying Trump talking points about closing the borders, getting rid of immigrants and cutting social services.
Even without the extremist right it’s going to be an absolute shit show.
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Even if sanity is restored next election cycle, I think at this point no one will ever trust us again knowing that in 4 years there’s a huge chance all hell will break loose again.
No way that is ever happening. We are a dying empire, rotting from the inside out. Because of a massive amount of inertia, the decline is really only starting to become obvious widely, but we are well into the phase where the ruling class has given up and is just looting the carcass before it hits the ground. They have succeeded in distracting the general public from the dire circumstances for a long time, but things are so far gone at this point, that won’t really be necessary much longer. As we proceed to give up on democracy, the efficacy of political influence withers away. The real danger for the world is that we have a massive military infrastructure ready to lash out in increasingly desperate spasms as the organism desperately tries to prolong agency. It is past time for the world community to organize against the threat the US poses to them. This is just getting started.
The US has military installations in 55 countries, I’m afraid that very soon, they’ll turn on the people they promised to “protect.” Total global shakedown. Just like the American oligarchy will have no qualms about further dismantling public infrastructure and driving wages and living conditions of their own populace down into bare survival mode if it means they can become trillionaires. Plus, poor and desperate people make good soldiers.
All great empires go through to decline, the fascinating thing about the US is that it happened so quickly.
Not really. Usually the decline starts out slowly, but once it reaches a certain point it finishes collapsing very quickly.
Well, the Roman Empire took about 450 years before to started to go tits up.
Bold of you to assume this is a blip.
The US will be spending the next several decades
building their reputation back upantagonizing the rest of the world hard for even the tiniest short-term gains of its ruling class, kowtowing only to China.The US simply will not survive in its current form for another 20 or 30 years. Whether by slow, festering rot or violent implosion.
Yea, one trump
saluteelection is bad, but two shows that it was not a fluke :/Until the next insurrectionist fascist rapist turns up. They seem to like them over, say, having to make difficult choices over there. Except that the choice wasn’t even that difficult to begin with.
