Idk where those institutions are but I can tell you that the US and Israel have paid troll armies.

Wait, you’ve been doing this for free? I get weekly Xibucks

Can’t say for Chinese, but there are definitely Russian ones. I’ve seen some on runet sites, i.e. Lenta and Pikabu. Why do I think they were bots? Different accounts posting an exact same text.

Just rationally speaking, wumaos do not exist. First of all, they would either be way too expensive or too cheap for anyone to want to do it (and they supposedly have “millions of wumaos” or something) and there are no documents AT ALL from the Chinese government about or referencing the wumaos. How the “wumaos” are paid is also a mystery, because they’re not in the state budget. There’s no proof that Chinese trollfarms exist

I would take their money, but I have got no such offers

Something Putin said repeatedly in the lead up to the SMO, and which applies more broadly - Ukraine is a colony of the US. It has been a colony since the Maidan putsch in 2014, and as he also said - there is no middle ground between being sovereign and being a colony. This is absolutely true of the EU as a whole and most of its individual member states, of NATO, of the UK, etc. None of these countries are capable of independent action, they just serve as vectors for the US empire.

As with everything the answer is…it depends. If they are outright fascist like the AfD or the National Front, then no, they should not be condoned, not even opportunistically. But there is a lot of grey zone still in between, and sometimes nationalistic movements if they are primarily anti-EU and anti-NATO, even if they have reactionary elements to them, can be useful. However communists should remain strictly separate from these bourgeois nationalists, we should have our own parties and use whatever unrest and anti-imperialist feeling that there is to advance our own message, to educate and agitate.

And here is where the so called patsocs go wrong: yes you may be able to opportunistically poach away a few people from the right, but this will never be the main base of support for us, don’t make the mistake of thinking most of the working class is right wing, they are not, and we should not pander to reactionaries. The most principled revolutionaries don’t come from the more privileged strata of society - the petty bourgeois who tend to participate in these right wing protests - but from the most disadvantaged and most harshly affected by all the various intersections of oppression under capitalist society.

Therefore our main messaging needs to be targeted at establishing solidarity among a broad working class base with oppressed minorities. In the meantime the right wing nationalist reaction to the liberal hegemony’s failures is at least useful insofar as it destabilizes and delegitimizes the entire system. These are dangerous times and simultaneously with the repression that is bound to come toward both the nationalist right and the anti-imperialist left from the liberal establishment, the same crisis that opens an opportunity for the revolutionary left also opens opportunities for fascists. And right now fascist forces are stronger and more established in Europe and US.

But that is yet another sign that we are living through a pre-revolutionary situation. Whether or not that revolution can materialize or is smothered in its cradle by a stronger fascist reaction is up to how well we can organize.

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Emir of Afghanistan moment.

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It really pains me to see Russia’s allies in EU are fascists. It pains me even more to see that they are saner than current governments. I wonder if this is done on purpose.

Which, let’s not forget, the workers of Germany, France, etc had no say in the sanctions or anything else going on. mOsT pEoPlE tHeRe aRe rUsSiOpHoBiC yeah that doesn’t matter because the bourgeoise never actually sought their approval for any of the government’s anti-Russia actions. Russiophobia or not, this wasn’t caused by them because they have no real power over the government.

Sorry, as much as I too hate the russiophobia going on in the EU, I’m also not a fan of the suffering boners in places like Lemmygrad of “I hope every French and German freezes to death!!!1!” because one, they’re still proletariats and they too are the victims of the Western imperial machinery, and two things like this could be an opportunity to deprogram them from the propaganda and actually get some class consciousness going, but only if we don’t needlessly antagonize them just because we’re salty.

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