Western people never looking in the mirror is my favorite trope. Please do show a quote from me where I’m supporting what Russia is doing and promoting a Russia in a positive light. I’ll wait.

edit: kind of hilarious how your whole account seems to exist for the sole purpose of harassing me. Your entire post history is just you trying to smear me. 😂

your lovely socialist China is not very bothered with human rights, especially for Uyguhrs

The millions of Uyghurs being supposedly imprisoned story is based on two highly dubious “studies.”. CHRD states that it interviewed dozens of ethnic Uyghurs in the course of its study, but their enormous estimate was ultimately based on interviews with exactly eight Uyghur individuals. Based on this absurdly small sample of research subjects in an area whose total population is 20 million, CHRD “extrapolated estimates” that “at least 10% of villagers […] are being detained in re-education detention camps, and 20% are being forced to attend day/evening re-education camps in the villages or townships, totaling 30% in both types of camps.” Furthermore, it doesn’t even make sense from logistics perspective. You’d need a detention city the size of San Francisco to detain one million Uighurs.

Practically all the stories we see about China trace back to Adrian Zenz is a far right fundamentalist nutcase and not a reliable source for any sort of information. The fact that he’s the primary source for practically every article in western media demonstrates precisely what I’m talking about when I say that coverage is divorced from reality.

Zenz is a born-again Christian who lectures at the European School of Culture and Theology. This anodyne-sounding campus is actually the German base of Columbia International University, a US-based evangelical Christian seminary which considers the “Bible to be the ultimate foundation and the final truth in every aspect of our lives,” and whose mission is to “educate people from a biblical worldview to impact the nations with the message of Christ.”

Zenz’s work on China is inspired by this biblical worldview, as he recently explained in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “I feel very clearly led by God to do this,” he said. “I can put it that way. I’m not afraid to say that. With Xinjiang, things really changed. It became like a mission, or a ministry.”.

Along with his “mission” against China, heavenly guidance has apparently prompted Zenz to denounce homosexuality, gender equality, and the banning of physical punishment against children as threats to Christianity.

Zenz outlined these views in a book he co-authored in 2012, titled Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation. In the tome, Zenz discussed the return of Jesus Christ, the coming wrath of God, and the rise of the Antichrist.

The fact that this nutcase is being paraded as a credible researcher on the subject is absolutely surreal, and it’s clear that the methodology of his “research” doesn’t pass any kind of muster when examined closely.

It’s also worth noting that there is a political angle around the narrative around Xinjiang. For example, here’s George Bush’s chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here’s an excerpt:

Throughout the 1990s, hundreds of Uyghurs were transported to Afghanistan by the CIA for training in guerrilla warfare by the mujahideen. When they returned to Xinjiang, they formed the East Turkistan Islamic Movement and came under Catli’s expert direction. Graham Fuller, CIA superspy, offered this explanation for radicalizing the Chinese Muslims:

The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them [Muslims] against our adversaries worked marvellously well in Afghanistan and against the Red Army. The doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter Chinese influence in Central Asia.

US has been stoking terrorism in the region while they’ve been running a propaganda campaign against China in the west.

Finally, if you were really worried about human rights then you should probably be more worried about the fact that the US holds 20% of world’s prison population as slave labour.

Russia did not invade Ukraine merely to prevent them jouning NATO (doesn’t match timeline either) Western support is not so much to weaken Russia, although by now that seems a bonus, but to protect a European independent country under attack. I see a number of flaws in your rant.

The war is a result of tensions that were largely escalated by NATO, and plenty of experts in the west have been warning about this for many years now. Here’s what Chomsky has to say on the issue recently:

https://truthout.org/articles/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-has-left-the-domain-of-rational-discourse/

https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalation-against-russia-would-have-no-victors/

Academics, such as John Mearsheimer, gave talks explaining why NATO actions would ultimately lead to conflict this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

These and many other voices were marginalized, silenced, and ignored. Yet, now people are trying to rewrite history and pretend that Russia attacked Ukraine out of the blue and completely unprovoked.

I see some flaws in your understanding of the subject you’re opining on.

I never see you condemn Russia or China for anything. You spend all your time on here defending/denying the existence of any faults in Russia and China.

I think there’s quite enough condemning of Russia and China of everything under the sun in western media. I think providing a counter perspective is valuable. I don’t know why you think that’s such a gotcha.

I also love the whole enlightened centrism notion of people having some sort of a duty to condemn both sides. I choose the topics I want to focus on, and if you have topic you want to focus on that’s up to you. Stop trying to police other people’s speech.

Absolutely hilarious how liberals bloviate about freedom of speech but then rabidly attack anybody who exercises it in the way they don’t like. Having such a reaction to seeing views you disagree with may be a sign of having serious mental problems.

Most people on LemmyNet (excluding LemmyGrad) will condemn Western countries as well as Russia/China.

I see people doing the opposite a lot of the time actually. Lots of people here whitewash what the west is doing and make excuses.

I honestly believe you either have mental problems or are part of a state-run astroturfing operation.

I honestly believe that you should get help in that case.