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    These are your friends seeking asylum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Juma_Tayir

    Please do explain to me how those 200 people in Thailand have anything to do with Juma Tayir. Or is collective punishment in vogue again?

    Did you as an American just criticize China for having police that’s too militarized? Amazing levels of cognitive dissonance here. 😂

    I’ve criticized the American police as being too militarized and unaccountable. Doesn’t mean that I can’t criticize China for using its police to intimidate its people.

    If you actually cared about these things then you’d be denouncing your own country.

    I criticize my country. I want it to improve. I’ve never, ever seen you criticize China. Not once.

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      Please do explain to me how those 200 people in Thailand have anything to do with Juma Tayir. Or is collective punishment in vogue again?

      I assume you’re being intentionally obtuse. I provided an example of the kinds of people we’re talking about here. You can read the book by an ex CIA asset that I linked in this thread earlier that details how CIA has been training these extremists with the intent of destabilizing China. Incidentally, this is exactly the same playbook US used with mujahideen in Afghanistan. You guys aren’t very creative.

      I’ve criticized the American police as being too militarized and unaccountable. Doesn’t mean that I can’t criticize China for using its police to intimidate its people.

      Difference is that we have plenty of tangible evidence for what US does.

      I criticize my country. I want it to improve. I’ve never, ever seen you criticize China. Not once.

      I have yet to have a single conversation with you where you actually criticize US or accept any criticism of it. What you do without fail is whitewash the crimes of your country.

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        I assume you’re being intentionally obtuse.

        Uh… that article. The one I linked from Time where it’s talking about fleeing people. One group of 200 Uyghurs was deported back to China at China’s request. There’s nothing I can see about them having the least bit to do with the assassination of Juma Tayir, besides a shared ethnicity.

        Difference is that we have plenty of tangible evidence for what US does.

        As I said, it’s the consequence of an open society where we are allowed to discuss our flaws. The best disinfectant is sunlight, and in China there is no sunlight allowed.

        I have yet to have a single conversation with you where you actually criticize US or accept any criticism of it.

        Then you haven’t been paying attention. Or perhaps I just am not always agreeing with the criticism that you want me to agree with? I’m not obligated to agree with your every complaint.

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          There’s nothing I can see about them having the least bit to do with the assassination of Juma Tayir, besides a shared ethnicity.

          You are being intentionally obtuse aren’t you. I used the wiki link to give an example of the types of people China is concerned about. Since you claim that you have no problems acknowledging problems with your country, it’s a good time for you to show that by acknowledging that US has been sponsoring terrorists in China as well as many other countries.

          As I said, it’s the consequence of an open society where we are allowed to discuss our flaws. The best disinfectant is sunlight, and in China there is no sunlight allowed.

          I’m trying to imagine the mental gymnastics one has to go through to call a society with one of the highest incarceration rates in the world open. Do you even listen to yourself?

          Your country literally runs on slave labor, and none of you even give a shit about that. Clearly there isn’t enough disinfectant in this universe for you people.

          Then you haven’t been paying attention. Or perhaps I just am not always agreeing with the criticism that you want me to agree with? I’m not obligated to agree with your every complaint.

          Oh I have very much been paying attention. Just in this thread alone you keep calling your despotic regime an open society. In previous threads you whitewashed US involvement in Ukraine and Afghanistan, danced around the insane nuclear posture your regime has, and tried to argue that it’s not an oligarchy.

          You don’t acknowledge a single wrong doing your regime does and praise it as some sort of free and open society which it’s demonstrably not. If you held your own country to the same standards as China you’d see that China is a far better and saner society than US could ever hope to be.

          Or perhaps I just am not always agreeing with the criticism that you want me to agree with? I’m not obligated to agree with your every complaint.

          Have you considered that perhaps I too disagree with the criticisms of China you want me to agree with? I’m not obligated to agree with your every complaint.