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fuck that, 28 months of 13 days
I think we should have 365 months of 2 days each (the days are half as long)
Also all of the nighttime days should be named after me because you can look up at the sky and it’s all pretty n stuff
im surprised you don’t want 1 month with 2 days (the days are extremely long)
1 day with day and night half-year each (basically like it is beyond polar circles).
No months. 28 weeks of 13 days and it’s a three-day working week.
They were just revolution brainstorming, let them cook
Gonna sit down and contemplate the plow today
best shit ever
Or Swatch Internet Time.Or stardates.
If only the metric system could have failed the way decimal time did.
intimidated by superior measurements
Preferring the Fr*nch colonial system of measurements to your culture’s indigenous ones.lol, okay bud.
person a: describes his ideological and practical disagreements with something
person b: but have you considered that it’s really popular!!??
stellar logic bud
Measurement systems, especially time measurement, is the one thing everybody should absolutely agree on for the sake of sanity of everyone. Of course the metric system is arbitrary bullshit but so is every other system, and metric at least tries to be less arbitrary to an extent. Yeah of course the most popular system is going to originate from a cultural hegemon but that’s fine as long as everybody agrees on it.
Measurement systems being propagated throughout the world technically would constitute as colonialism I guess but honestly I see no sense in opposing the metric system other than pure spite.
Measurement systems, especially time measurement, is the one thing everybody should absolutely agree on for the sake of sanity of everyone.
I disagree with this premise. I think that standardization is highly valuable, but there’s absolutely no reason everyone everywhere should use the same systems.
the standards set by some inbred monarch a thousand years ago should not be maintained
Lol the other day I learned the measurement for a yard was determined by an English king sticking his arm out and measuring the distance from his nose to his thumb
That’s great but it has nothing to do with what I said.
if you seem to think a ‘colonial’ standard of measurement is bad because it was imposed by force (metric wasn’t in the vast majority of metric countries btw), the ‘indigenous’ one would need to be meaningfully different. but old measuring standards were arbitrary impositions from old ruling classes
old measuring standards were arbitrary impositions from old ruling classes
As opposed to metric, which was an arbitrary imposition by the French ruling class.
The imperial system is British. It is not indigenous to the Americas.
so true bestie
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We need to revturn to the pre-Republic Roman system of ten 28 day months and a liminal, unaccountable 90ish day period during the winter where dates don’t exist. We need to have a high priest pulling apart bird guts to tell us when in March we can start counting days again. We need a system so subjective and variable that you occasionally need a 500 day year to reset everything either becuase of compounding error or because the priest in charge got murdered and no one replaced him for two months.
And we should implement yearly counts based on how long the current dynasty keeps power. We could have Bush 1-4, followed by years Clinton 1-8, followed by Bush 5-12, etc.
at least it would spice things up a bit
that’s why they call it haruspicy
also when you say “a month from now” that would be a defined amount of time
I’ve always assumed that meant you incremented the month (i.e next month on this date) but it turns out some people use an arbitrary day increase and you only find out when it fails.
“A month from now” means look at dates/times that work for you and get back to me. Telling someone “lets meet tomorrow afternoon” doesnt imply a specific time and more than “a month from now” implies a specific day. Your schedules are failing because you haven’t been following up so people think you aren’t interested.
bit presumptuous, don’t you think?
It’s jarring seeing reddit style inane debatelording/condescending smug posting like the above here since federation. The evolution of Hexbear post severance from the reddit liberal hivemind has made these kind of people stand out more than any instance tag ever could.
I know, I really hate to see it here. Hexbear has always been such a warm, welcoming place, and some newcomers from other corners of the Internet have no understanding or respect for that & it hurts me. I don’t want this place to turn into just anywhere else, I’ll stop bearing if it just turns into another place where people argue
(That said it is kinda funny from time to time to see a smug lib get absolutely bandsawed, which admittedly was a large appeal of the original subreddit for me)
lol I agree and I still like federation because it does bring us new comrades and very very funny site taglines. I think it’s worth the occasional headache.
I follow up compulsively when there is ambiguity, it was just a general observation from past experience.
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13x28 is 364, what about the 365th day?
Just make it into a big holiday that doesn’t take place on any official day of the week, it’s just its own thing existing outside the normal structures of modern life.
Or, we could ignore it and enjoy the confusion as the seasons slowly drift into different months as an effort to hide the increasingly obvious signs of climate change.
If we’re gonna do that let’s just make it a five day holiday and a 360 day year. 360 is a much more convenient number than 364, you can make it ten 36 day months of four nine day weeks or twelve 30 day months of three ten day weeks.
Make it five 6-day weeks and twelve 30-day months, you got yourself a deal. If we want to fit the moon thing like in OP a month needs to be ~29.5 days and 30 would be closest. Twelve months also allows us to keep lining months up with seasons and use quarters for stuff.
To be clear for anyone who isn’t familiar, the ~28 days vs ~30 days thing comes from the number of days it takes to complete an orbit vs the number of days it takes for the sun to be in the same relative position, respectively. Historically, calendars have followed the latter because that’s what dictates what phase the moon is in. The discrepancy happens because the earth is orbiting the sun at the same time the moon is orbiting the earth.
Sure, five six day weeks or even six five day weeks. There are a lot more options when your prime factors don’t include ugly numbers like 13 and 7.
I think they tried that around the French revolution and the paris commune used it. It didn’t stick around because we’re not allowed to have nice things
The glib, history-as-storybook reason I heard was that they didn’t bother or think to to rework the almanacs, so all the very necessary work of food production was still using old calendar. Kinda hard to stick to a new calendar when your cheese and bread is still marked by the old one.
I always assumed it had to do with the difficulty of using a different calendar than all your neighboring countries, but I don’t really know
Nah, they’re the reason we have the metric system. Well, them and Napoleon. If they had been able to prove the new calendar as useful, it would have spread with him.
True enough
Or 12 months with 30 days in the month and the week is five days + holiday week which doesn’t fall within a month.
You decide when that is yourself. If you’re having a rough day and you can’t be arsed? You take the 365th. It’s like a yearly “grandparents funeral”.
I independently came up with the 13 x 28 idea to align monthly things like bills to weekly things like paychecks.
My solution was to make that odd day a holiday and celebrate the really awesome, cool, and good-looking dude that came up with this new calendar. (Me)
That is no worse than leap day. Far better than 73 five day months.
Why not five 73 day months? Thinking outside the box here.
A great point. I had thought we would want to make a bunch. However, even the Caesars ran out of steam renaming months.
What if we also made all of those months October, so that we can have Halloween 5 times a year instead of once?
To make this work, you’d have to add the detail of having a leap week every 6 years or so, sometimes every 5 years.
Remember, a solar year is about 365.24 Earth days.
Every year has 1-2 intercalary days that aren’t part of any month.
The problem is then that your months slowly drift out of alignment with the moon.
I’ve fucked with lunar calendars and di-lunar calendars for DnD, and honest to god it’s easier to just move the moon than figure that shit out.
That is the day we give our offerings to the ancient ones
13 X 28 is only 364. What about the 365th day?
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Purge day
Or every year, put it between two different months. To be decided by the winner of a contest held on that day. The winner also gets to decide what the next contest will be. In a surprise twist in the year 27 in the new calendar, when the contest day is held after the thirteenth month (Redteaber?), the winner of the contest decides the next year’s contest day will be the first day of the next year – tomorrow! Mayhem breaks out and the people wish they’d listened to WithoutFurtherRelay when they had the chance.
There’s actually 365.24, so it’s even worse
One intercalary (or “blank”) day every year, and an extra one every 4th year - except every 20th 4th year - except every 4th 20th 4th year. Leap years but sensical.
Bonus day for new year’s eve
To shreds, you say?
This is also how the railway callendar works in the UK.
so we’re reinventing the shire calendar then? :)
Apparently Tolkien based that on Saint Bede’s and Anglo-Saxon calendars (ofc he would)
But the Moon though
Yeah the moon part is definitely the weakest part of the argument lol
The moon can’t tell me what to do!
Yes please I would like to spend my entire life having every birthday be on a fucking Wednesday thank you
The broadcast calendar. 😆
It’s a good idea.
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Yeah but 13. Spooky.
13 months of 28 days with 1-2 intercalary days is the perfect system. The only downside is nobody wants it because it would be a little bit of work to implement. Remember Y2K?
This is why we need to bring Gaddafi back from the dead and put his brain inside a giant robot. If anyone had the will and means to get this implemented, it would be Mega Mecha Gadaffi.
