People across the fediverse keep referring to wolfballs as the right wing instance.

I love all our right wing members but that has never been the case.

If you have not seen my Frog in the well video I think that explains our stance pretty well.

Did Jesus refuse to eat with the tax collectors? No, wolfballs does not turn people away because their “politics” are dirty.

Nor do I attempt to cull the post to fit a certain narrative.

Shit post however you want. Say what you mean, mean what you say.

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      For this site being neutral is good. In actual life, where does that get us? You have say enough is enough at some point. Sometimes I wish the whole thing would eat itself and we start over. I know that would not be a pleasant experience though.

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      More like Liechtenstein… Like Switzerland, but tiny, and not many people have heard of you. …still kinda cute, tho’

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        I don’t know what he is talking about. Nothing is even currently blacklisted. Its called hidden communities now. When certain content is super offensive I may hide it from people if they are unsubscribed. That takes a lot of heat off me.

        And the more content here the less that will be needed. If the site becomes 95% Jew nose memes I have to do that kinda stuff. If its 80% not offensive content I don’t really care.

        My goal is always to work toward more freedom not less.

        When we first started a few people came and would make like 20 communities called fuckniggerkikes and I deleted some of those. That’s just spam.

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          Would that some of the redundant Wolfball communities would be deleted. Diluting the same conversation topics across dozens of communities is how reddit alternatives die.

          I wonder how much “nuance” in content there can possibly be between “Whatever,” “Free Forum,” and “The Default Community.” Or between all the meme communities that post similar pro-Trump, anti-shitlib content.

          BUT that’s just my impression as a newcomer, I don’t expect it to be taken with much weight. I don’t want to seem like some agitator who joined the platform just to shit on it. I want to see it grow.

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            I wonder how much “nuance” in content there can possibly be between “Whatever,” “Free Forum,” and “The Default Community.” Or between all the meme communities that post similar pro-Trump, anti-shitlib content.

            This has been discussed and there was some attempt by wigglehard to merge like communities. Every small reddit alternative needs a catch all community like whatever and somewhat like freeforum. the default community should be more like announcements. CovidHoax, no new normal, and covid memes really could all be put together.

            Creating and building up communities is a big part of the fun in reddit style forums though. People want to feel ownership over their community like it’s their own little website. So telling people to post in another forum doesn’t work well. Ruqqus had the concept of yanking post from a catch all community to a specific community and I thought that worked pretty good.

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    I am neither left or right. I don’t have much choice but to align myself with conservatives but, I also agree with the left on some issues. That becomes less and less as they become less “liberal” and more “authoritarian”. I don’t put any faith into any politicians. The globalist agenda is very real and corruption runs very deep.

    I appreciate MOB reminding me not to let them push me too far in any direction. I am open to re-evaluating how I see the world and make changes as I get new information. Though, literally everything is very murky and the truth is less clear everyday.

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      The thing that pisses me off the most is that there are already set rules for being one or the other. Like, if you’re left wing you want A, B, and C, and hate D. If you’re right wing, you want E, F, and G, and hate H. Why? Why do people pick one or the other then accept all the rules? I’d say I’m more of a centrist purely because I can see good and bad things on both sides of the argument. There’s no way anyone on the left or right agrees with 100% of their ideals. If they do, they’re fucking sheep plain and simple.

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        I hate this too – If you agree with a little they expect you to agree with everything, and many of those things have nothing to do with each other!

        “You don’t like spending too much money, right?” No! I hate that! “Then you agree that we should set up a Christian caliphate!” wut?

        “You don’t think we should let poor people literally die in the street, right?” No, you’re right! “Then you agree that we should shame men to have sex with trans people!” wut?

        Seriously, give an inch take a parsec! I’d prefer we think for ourselves and decide for ourselves what we believe in by ourselves as individuals rather than letting an ism choose for us.

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        I reject left/center/right and just say “I’m traditionalist.” I don’t care about modern political solutions or high-tech infrastructure. People pretty much get what you mean, whether they like your stance or not.

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    Everything right of Stalin is now “Right wing”. Men are women. Penis can be a vagina. Words mean nothing according to commies.

    Fuck, commie run dictionaries like Webster change the definitions in real time during presidential debates

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      Institutional power is always corrupt. I’ve become more and more anarchist as this last year goes on. Just take it all down and revert back to tribal nations

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        I have many thoughts on this, but haven’t been able to write it down.

        I don’t think you are wrong. I thought about this for several years, specifically Wikipedia. A democratic platform to share knowledge became a propaganda piece in just 10 years.

        What happened to Wikipedia could happen to every alt tech platform that becomes too big. If we do not understand the mechanism and have anti-corruption from the grassroots, we will never be free of corrupt big platforms.

        The Problem: How did it happen ? On Wikipedia on every controversial page, e.g. Project Veritas or AntiVax doctors like Robert Malone, several editors try to balance the extreme left and make the articles objective. But they are outnumbered by more active Leftists…

        Why ? Most Lefty activists are sponsored by Diversity Initiatives, where govts and Big companies pay millions to create “Equity”. E.g. Google spent 100s of millions into the extreme Left Vox media or the Young Turks, and similar extreme left propaganda platforms. They can freeload on this $$ and do full time activism.

        On the right and center, there are no such sponsorships to pay good editors. The rational editors on Wikipedia have day jobs and families. They can’t spend all day fighting these nuts. This is how everything from journalism to big tech to Wikipedia is corrupted.

        Possible Solutions: Make it easier for general public to make a change. On Wikipedia the edits of a new user can be trashed by long time activists and you can be banned just like other censorship platforms. If new users had same amount of power as long time ones, and could not be banned, gate keeping would end… very fast.

        Every Astroturf, be it Soros/Gates/Google sponsored DEI, Russian troll farms, Chinese 5 cent army, can be outnumbered by real users, if there are no “Gatekeepers”

        That is my proposal to solve corruption of platforms -> more democracy and free speech.

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          community edited wiki’s are good for lots of information not accurate information. multiple personal works examined in context is better for accuracy.

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            Yes, I have found articles with large number of editors, both right and left to be very unbiased and objective. But most controversial ones, lets say Rittenhouse, get a majority of left wing activists, and the spin is mad.

            This is Corporate money corrupting journalism basically.

            Even if a completely new platform was created, it would eventually be corrupt the same way.

            Other than getting a lot of conservatives to pump money into hiring good editors - which is really hard, since conservatives generally don’t spend money for such causes, do you have any ideas ?

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          A simpler solution would be to turn off the internet, and that’s kind of happening in certain bossy cultries. No matter what you do, all rules, laws, and regulations are subject to manipulation in the name of the one true law, the law of the jungle. Idealism only works when it is backed by real and actual power.

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            “The law of the jungle”

            The jungle is more civilized than people think. Emergent morality and “fair play” are instincts even in small mammals like Rats. I have seen this myself (owned around 50 rats)

            Dominance through physical power is very unstable. Dictator chimp catches a cold and doesn’t feel too well, nr.2 and 3 gang up, castrate and kill him.

            If members of a tribe are treated well by the leader, we get a stable solution. History shows, fair play is the formula for “internal peace”

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              I actually live in the jungle, but i’ve never had any rats.

              Power is not just physical, but that notwithstanding, it is quite the norm in other species to imply physical threat and for older alphas to be overthrown by younger ones

              By “LOTJ is the whole of the law”, i mean that it is the norm in civilised society to lie and jockey for power and disongenuously use any rule to win in any scenario. I think of workers rights and how most employment law is useless in reality, or in human relationships, how power - as in the ability to make things happen - is what people really mean when they talk about the imagined effects of wealth. Women aren’t particularly attracted to wealth, but by its power, and also other forms of power, such a popularity/influence/wit, and skills to solve practical problems or keep income flowing.

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                You are right, but you missed the most important thing… Time Scale. Dominance is only viable as a short term strategy. Its very unstable

                older alphas to be overthrown by younger ones

                Young chimp alphas get torn to pieces as well. They just need to fall sick, and the next 2 biggest chimps, maybe 90% his size will end them.

                jockey for power and disongenuously use any rule to win

                Yes, but these forms of dominance are unstable. Tyrannical systems are always short lived, check any history book.

                Women aren’t particularly attracted to wealth, but by its power

                This is true, but incomplete. Women were presented with 4 mate choices -> Poor & untalented, Rich & untalented, Poor & talented, Rich & talented. All things being equal, they pick the richer mate.

                However when forced to choose between a Rich untalented man and a poor talented one, they preferred talent over money.

                A guy with talent is more attractive than a useless idiot who got an inheritance.

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                  …potential, literally being a form of power.

                  Women tend to be rational when it comes to betting on resources of any kind.

                  On the instability of force, it can stall endure for a while, and some of the most oppressive systems, whether poltical, corporate, or organised crime, can be enduring.

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      “right wing” has been a cryptonym for “evil” for years. A fun strategy is to call everyone you dislike, “right wing”, even if they’re left wing - they hate it.

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    As right wing viewpoints get run off of other sites, naturally then people that lean right end up at free speech sites making them lean right.

    I guess they think if we get banned off reddit, then we disappear in real life.

    Free speech sites don’t have to be right wing, but most of their members will be.

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      They are driving us underground. I am not sure if it makes people more extreme or if those ones now have a louder voice.

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        Part of the insane thing to me is that what is considered “right wing” is so broad that you’re going to basically drive everyone into the same team. At this point, the viewpoints that make you a “right wing extremist” would have made you pretty far left 10 years ago.

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    I still consider the Liberal government in Canada under Jean Chretien to be one of the best governments of all time. I still have most of the opinions I had back then, and more. I look at what’s going on today and I remember the opposition to the war in Iraq from the left of the time that I could argue I was a part of, and I remember seeing the entire media establishment trying to shame people into supporting the government agenda and slicing people up into “us vs. them”.

    To me in reality, I don’t think the opposition to the current establishment is right wing or left wing necessarily. It’s freedom vs. tyranny. Taking the red pill is about escaping the systems intended to control us. The details of the specific tactics being used this week to control us, whether those tactics fall on the left wing or the right wing is immaterial to the broader strategy of control. It turns out that at the moment the right is more on board with freedom, but that can change in a heartbeat, has changed in the past, and will change again in the future. It’s entirely possible we have times when there’s nobody in our court because nobody in power thinks freedom will advantage them. It’s also possible (and I lived through it) where someone will claim they’re on our side then act entirely opposite.

    Freedom shouldn’t care what your specific ideology is, only that you’re free to pursue it. I’ll break bread with elements of the religious right, I’ll break bread with elements of the socialist left, I want to agree disagree and debate, but only as long as it’s understood that fundamental freedoms are non-negotiable.

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      I often wondered why they wanted all this control and money, and then i found out about “transhumanism”, and realized that their goal is the elixir of life, they need slaves to fund the r&d. Then, when they have attained that goal, they can spend their longer lives working out the meaning of life. They are what call “the cyborg cult”.

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      Imo red pills save lives and minds. It’s about waking up to the system of control the world has put in place. People are prisoners to the corporate brainwashing so rampant in our society.

      I love that so any people are waking up. I think that has to do with media systems breaking down.

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    They don’t want to acknowledge that the people they label “rightwing extremists” are actually just people who were considered normal before 2015.

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    This is the right call. I am personally a Centralist myself. I don’t care what your politics or anyone else is as long as they leave me alone. Can’t we just try to get along.