So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy’s version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

  • cloudless@lemmy.world
    18613·
    9 months ago

    Block these instances: lemmy.ml lemmygrad.ml hexbear.net

    There is no point arguing with tankies. They are dumb and they won’t change. I just hope there will be a way to completely block those users including their comments. They are polluting the fediverse.

    • Ignacio@kbin.social
      544·
      9 months ago

      I just hope there will be a way to completely block […] users including their comments.

      Remember who the developers are.

      • cloudless@lemmy.world
        365·
        9 months ago

        Yeah. I hope kbin will grow and have a decent mobile app, then I can finally move over.

          • Cloudless@kbin.melroy.org
            4·
            9 months ago

            When I tried the Interstellar app earlier, it crashed frequently. Just tried it again with the current version and it seems to be very stable now. Thanks for the suggestion.

            Is there something unique about kbin.earth? I am using kbin.melroy.org for now, which runs on mbin.

        • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
          42·
          9 months ago

          But… Kbin can federate just as easily with those instances as Lemmy. You shouldn’t think “I’m going to move to kbin”, that wouldn’t help in any way.

          You should rather move to an instance (using any backend you like, Lemmy, Kbin, doesn’t matter) that has defederated from the instances you don’t want to interact with.

      • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
        10·
        9 months ago

        They seem to be really anti-nsfw, so that could be a driving force for improving their instance blocking (and is probably the only reason it exists in the first place).

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        71·
        9 months ago

        I got a permanent ban on lemmygrad within days of making an account, see supporting Ukraine defend itself is obviously NATO apologia. I think the problem wasn’t even my stance but that were actually convincing, they’re not blocking you for saying “fuck tankies” or making bad arguments, they keep that stuff up to make, by extension, any criticism of their party line look stupid.

        Only got temporary bans on lemmy.ml, for things such as pointing out that OP’s article itself said that Ukraine didn’t lay claim to the territories in Russia it officially recognises as “historically linguistically Ukrainian” in response to others in the thread doing the usual “Zelensky is a Nazi oppression Russian speakers” thing (never mind Zelensky being a native Russian speaker and Jew).

      • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
        61·
        9 months ago

        I got banned from some of these as well! First time I’ve ever been banned from anything lol. Guess it’s a badge of honor on lemmy

    • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
      3·
      9 months ago

      I just hope there will be a way to completely block those users including their comments. They are polluting the fediverse.

      There already is, go to an instance that defederates from them. Or try to convince your current instance to do it. Or make your own personal instance so you’re in control of what you defederate from.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
        52·
        9 months ago

        Based on what china is doing to fishing and military boats from the Philippines, I doubt they’re just after ‘transit’. They’re making a territorial claim. Not much different from Russia’s claim on Ukraine, except that its happening in international waters.

        This is what OP was banned for. It’s not just the world news community, the admins police wrongthink across the entire instance.

          • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
            71·
            9 months ago

            Yeah I had an account there too and I set it up like every other account. Found out later on that ml was Marxist Lennin so I setup shop at lemm.ee instead

            • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              105·
              9 months ago

              .ml is the top level domain for the country of Mali. .ml domains are free, so it is just a coincidence. Also, Marxist-Leninism is not a ‘tankie’ theory, by itself. There are plenty of communists and socialists that aren’t simps for China and Russia.

              I would even say that you can’t be a true communist and support either of these countries, because these countries are not communist at all. They are just authoritarian capitalistic hellholes, with sprinkles of social policies to give the illusion of pursuing a communist society.

            • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
              3·
              9 months ago

              I never knew whether that was true, I just drifted away from it. .ml just means it is on a domain designated for Mali, but they could have explicitly chosen that domain to use it for another purpose.

        • Artyom@lemm.ee
          6·
          9 months ago

          This is blatantly not true. To sign up for lemmy.ml, you have to provide an email, name, and a couple sentences of why you’re joining. You should stop inventing false statements and spewing them on the internet. It’s not good for anyone. In fact, it makes everyone who dislikes lemmy.ml look like idiots.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1004·
      9 months ago

      Yep.

      Fastest way to get banned there is to give valid criticism of China or Russia.

      One of the Tankiest of tankie instances

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
          425·
          9 months ago

          Because no likey da Americans

          These morons think Iran is a bastion of anti-colonial resistance

          Iran

          The theocracy

          The successor state to one of the longest running imperial projects in human history

          The state currently organizing proxies to destabilize it’s neighbors with the intention of letting a puppet state take all of it for integration within it’s sphere of influence

          That Iran.

          Tankies have no values and even fewer brain cells.

            • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
              82·
              9 months ago

              A few are Canadians who think letting the prairie provinces have nice things will lead to the second war of 1812, but yeah, they’re almost always bougie US kids. Why I always call them Bougyeviks.

              All the ideology, none of the actual connection to the people who need the most help

        • Scrof@sopuli.xyz
          365·
          9 months ago

          Tankies love fascist dictatorships. That’s their whole shtick.

          • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
            246·
            9 months ago

            Yep, this.

            They are convinced they are gonna be part of the ruling class, So they fucking love fascist authoritarian dictatorship.

            The overwhelming irony is that they would most likely be the ones purged, not the ones ruling.

        • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
          125·
          9 months ago

          Sow disinformation about the west, erode tust.

          Now, bear in mind I’m acutely aware of the strengths of china, and the failings of the us, but when the 300lb gorilla is in your backyard eyeing your kids, you get involved with the gorilla, and keep and eye on what is happening in office politics and in the neighbours yard.

        • stoly@lemmy.world
          72·
          9 months ago

          Because there are reactionaries. It’s like PETA or angry vegans who are in it for the moral superiority rather than making the world a better place.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
          42·
          9 months ago

          Inability to hold nominally conflicting ideas. You can be a socialist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be socialist. Likewise you can be capitalist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be capitalist.

      • Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        82·
        9 months ago

        Isn’t that the developer instance? Are the developers tanki communists? (I don’t believe a real communist would want to support china OR russia since they aren’t actually communists)

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
    16510·
    9 months ago

    Lemmy.ml is a tankie instance that loves China and hates western countries. Unfortunately, it’s also one of the biggest Lemmy instances because it’s run by the main devs of Lemmy (who created Lemmy because they were frequently banned on other sites for bootlicking for China). Thankfully, Lemmy is open source and the nature of how it runs allows everyone to ignore the weird ideologies of the devs.

          • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
            14·
            9 months ago

            alien.top is an instance that scrapes Reddit and mirrors posts and comments, creating bot accounts with the same username as the original poster. The intent was to make it easy for users to migrate away from Reddit (just claim the bot account with your username), but everyone pointed out the obvious ethical problems of mass plagiarizing and how nobody on Reddit can see any replies you make. It was also super spammy and 99℅ of the comments are from those scraper bots, so most instances defederated from them.

            • Baku@aussie.zoneEnglish
              2·
              9 months ago

              I’ve got lemmit blocked for similar reasons. I don’t really know much of it, but that lemmit bot was annoying me and I just sort of assumed the entire instance was probably just Reddit posts so blocked it

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        272·
        9 months ago

        lemmygrad is a full-on cult, lemmy.ml is its public front and embassy, and hexbear, well, there’s plenty of idiots on hexbear, the problem with hexbearians isn’t that they’re Stalinists but that they think signal politics does anything, hence also their propensity to pile. At least in the past I think they’ve given up on doing it outside hexbear.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        142·
        9 months ago

        Two of them are practically dead.

        Hexbear is just the exodus of ChapoTrapHouse and a few affiliated sites from when Reddit kicked its ban policy into high gear. The Akira Toriyama Megathread and Online Movie Night top-posts seem about as sincere and good natured as anything on any other social media site.

    • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
      1238·
      9 months ago

      Lemmy.world was the one that blocked me from calling out russian bs. And everyday its nothing but linkerbaan being busy trying to convince everyone that Status Quo Joe is the worst thing in the world bc Gaza.

      • Hyperreality@kbin.social
        203·
        9 months ago

        Yeah. He’s an obvious troll. The bigger problem is that when I’ve called him out in the past, a mod here has deleted my comments for misleading reasons. So it’s obvious that at least one of the mods does support Russian bs. Of course, there are other mods who do give him the occasional ban so he calms down a bit.

        I’ve said this elsewhere, but if you’re angry about what’s happening in Gaza, you really don’t want ‘friends’ like that supporting your cause. One spoilt apple ruins the bunch. It’s like if you run a children’s hospital that accepts donations from Gary Glitter.

        • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
          7·
          9 months ago

          My thing with it is, ive bwen privately/publicly bitching about the apartheid state known as Israel for the past 15+ yrs, but now, now is when everybodys taking note, when the october attack by hamas was, in part, part of a larger russian effort to draw attention away from the area in Europe they have since called a stepstone multiple times now. And now these voices conveniently ignore that US policy towards israel has always been unconditional financial/military support. But suuuure, its all bidens fault. As if the geriatric neolib picked out of a hat bc he was the closest thing to “average” for our politics over the past 60 yrs was the problem, and is if there was no chance of their being intelligence available to the president that isnt available to the rest of us.

          Support Gaza, but remember that Ukraine is where the bigger worldwide threat is.

          • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            5·
            9 months ago

            Kind proud to have been banned from reddit world news (pre-API BS) for calling out the Israel bootlicker spam and downvote bot armies.

            It’s disgusting how obviously evil Israel has treated the west bank for so long that only now people care, and only now are people calling on the government to put an end to it. I recall having read an article about at least 1 Jewish community protest having been marked “antisemetic”

          • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            9 months ago

            The obsession with the genocide language really says it all. They use it to shut down discussion entirely, but they will ban you if you mention the G word about Ukraine.

            A year or two from now, when there are still millions of Arab Palestinians, and the world is spending billions to rebuild their infrastructure, I’m sure all these people will definitely admit that it was never genocide.

      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.orgEnglish
        238·
        9 months ago

        Yeah, the linkerbaan guy is an obvious russian bot/troll, I’ve blocked him a long time ago.

        • Humanius@lemmy.worldEnglish
          174·
          9 months ago

          I’m inclined to believe that they might be genuine. The comments are too well-written for a mere spam/bot/troll account.

          The sheer volume of these comments and posts does feel very spam-like though

        • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
          5·
          9 months ago

          Not that obvious, judging by the downvotes here and how they are the most popular poster over there. And per what ppl under u were saying, i would bet money that they are a paid actor, not a bot, though they definitely employ those as well to inflate, deflate upvotes at their discretion.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
      1965·
      9 months ago

      Lemmy.ml is only a tankie instance to someone that thinks Marxism=tankies

      That said, at least one of the Worldnews mods is a pretty evident Pooh Poster.

      They’ll let people call out the more aggressive bullshit “America bad” rhetoric but if you even look at China funny you’re going to eat a permaban.

      • uienia@lemmy.world
        677·
        9 months ago

        There is nothing marxist about ml or other tankie places. They are just pure authoritarian brownnosers, and couldn’t care less about actual socialism. Tankies are purely in it because they imagine they are going to be the ruling class after their imaginary “revolution”, exactly the same way fascists are in it for.

      • agent_flounder@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        9 months ago

        but if you even look at China funny you’re going to eat a permaban.

        That sure sounds like classic tankie.

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        9 months ago

        The ironic part is that all of the Marxist-Leninists on .ml are actually really bad when it comes to contemporary political science in my experience. They are way closer to anti-western ideologues considering their grasp on modern leftist theory seems tenuous at best. All they know is orthodox dogma and then a bunch of cold war nonsense which has nothing to do with leftist politics at all.

      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.orgEnglish
        2724·
        9 months ago

        a tankie is someone who tends to support “militant opposition to capitalism”, and a more modern online variation, which means "something like ‘a self-proclaimed communist who indulges in conspiracy theories and whose rhetoric is largely performative.’

        I use this definition. And it perfectly applies to a wide range of lemmy.ml users and moderators.

        • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          455·
          9 months ago

          That’s a bad definition.

          A tankie is simply a ML who supports the use of force to restrict people’s freedoms. It’s named after the Soviets sending tanks into Hungary to stop a popular democratic uprising, but the same applies to China sending tanks into Tiananmen.

          They’re basically super statists who value the state over the people.

          All leftists are opposed to capitalism, but obvs tankies are a small minority of leftists, so your definition falls apart.

            • cabbage@piefed.social
              292·
              9 months ago

              Marxism-Leninism.

              Lenin was a scholar and developed his own take on Marxism, which has its own understanding of the communist society. Marx wrote very little about what a communist society would look like, but he had an understanding of history as moving towards an end: The classes will fight, over time the result of this fight will lead to them approaching each other, and at the end of this struggle we will reach a classless society. This classless society is the communist society in a traditional Marxist sense.

              Lenin figured he’d make a shortcut to get there: Never mind thousands of years of class struggle, let’s just put in place a powerful ruling class imposing communism on everyone, designing a classless society from the top down. Which is a bit counter-intuitive, but the Leninist part of Marxism-Leninism basically boils down to trying to figure out what that could look like.

              So then you get the Soviet Union, very much founded on the ideas of Marxism-Leninism. Today people who identify as Marxist-Leninist tend to not be the sharpest tools in the shed: Despite insisting that they have studied the texts carefully, a brief interaction with them reveals that they have never read neither Marx nor Lenin. What it boils down to, rather than anything theoretical, is either a longing for some imaginary version of the Soviet Union or a unshakable commitment to lick Putin’s ass.

              The Soviet Union of course never did become a classless society, so you could argue that the greatest achievement of Marxism-Leninism was to destroy the traditional meaning of communism in a Marxist sense.

              • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
                131·
                9 months ago

                Well said. The ML offshoot caused deaths of numerous communists and gave a reason to the red scare, harming the progress of Marxism for decades

              • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
                7·
                9 months ago

                Lenin figured he’d make a shortcut to get there: Never mind thousands of years of class struggle, let’s just put in place a powerful ruling class imposing communism on everyone, designing a classless society from the top down.

                I think Lenin missed the part where the powerful ruling class imposing something is the opposite of a classless society.

              • Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
                2·
                9 months ago

                To be fair, I downloaded Das Kapital once and started reading it, but after just one or two pages in this old German language it was just too difficult to follow so I gave up.

              • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
                1·
                9 months ago

                Marx actually did write quite a bit about revolutionary praxis. It’s actually what ends up renders his otherwise reasonable stuff about historical materialism down to modernist screed.

            • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
              123·
              9 months ago

              Marxist-Lenininist, or Stalinist. Sometimes Maoists are included. It’s like a pseudofascist offshoot and later antagonist ideology of Marxism. Historically they’ve purged communists etc.

            • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              279·
              9 months ago

              No it’s not.

              The closest to support for capitalism would market socialism, but that still involves public ownership of the means of production, which is in difference to the defining feature of capitalism, private ownership of the means of production.

              • Delta_V@lemmy.world
                51·
                9 months ago

                not just private ownership, but structures that ensure an increasingly concentrated private ownership by ever fewer people who use that advantage to create a set of rules that further increases the ownership gap

                ie a system where the owners of capital get to make the rules

                capitalism is antithetical to democracy

              • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
                21·
                9 months ago

                It is though. This is what people mean when they say so much of internet leftism is outdated and misinformed.

                Treating capitalism as a Boogeyman is outdated. Capital modes of production are a tool which can be wielded by market socialists towards the ultimate goal of post scarcity, classless society, the same as any other other economic structure. Putting dirty words in in a particular historical box is just as dumb as worshipping those words. It’s modernist garbage, plain and simple, and all to often this gets manifested as braindead “everything I hate is capitalism.”

                The goal of socialism is worker control of production. This is often in conflict with capitalism in practice, but is not orthogonal to capitalism in theory. This is a large part of contemporary leftist theory which has developed over the past 50 years, and dismissing it reveals pretty stark amateurism imo

                • barsoap@lemm.ee
                  2·
                  9 months ago

                  Capital modes of production are a tool which can be wielded by market socialists

                  You’re playing semantics and the “modes of production” stuff is like the weakest stuff in Marx. Market socialism still means the abolishment of the capitalist class (nowadays “the 0.1%”), therefore, can’t be capitalist, the primary distinction after all being class relations, and not mode of production.

                  There’s been a ton of equivocation of capitalism with market economies which is probably where all this is coming from. You can have markets with socialism, you can have markets with capitalism, but you can’t have socialism with capitalism.

                • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  22·
                  9 months ago

                  You’re the first person I’ve ever heard say “internet” leftism is outdated.

                  I think you’ve just convinced yourself that it is because you don’t agree with it mate.

              • cabbage@piefed.social
                68·
                9 months ago

                I guess there’s this American sense of capitalism as an ideological commitment to letting the forces of the marketplace run wild, and that once you regulate the markets it’s not capitalism any more. That’s laissez-faire though - there are other forms of capitalism as well. In the broadest sense capitalism basically boils down to having a market economy, which a lot of leftists are in favour of.

                • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  126·
                  9 months ago

                  No, capitalism basically boils down to private ownership of the means of production.

                  A market economy is a market economy, hence market socialism. Market economies have existed for thousands of years, capitalism for a few hundred.

                • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  135·
                  9 months ago

                  Soc Dem was co-opted by right wingers, just the same as they stole the word Libertarian from us.

                  Soc Dems today are not leftist, Dem Socs are where the leftist part went.

                • RobotToaster
                  112·
                  9 months ago

                  Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

                • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
                  142·
                  9 months ago

                  In Finland, the social democrats are leftists only in right wing rhetoric. Their actual politics are definitely still inside capitalism and not actually leftist. One could consider them centrists in a way

                • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  82·
                  9 months ago

                  Scandinavian countries are not leftist.

                  They’re some of the most left leaning of Western countries, but they’re not actually on the left side of the spectrum, they’re just less right.

            • cabbage@piefed.social
              75·
              9 months ago

              Of all the random things people downvote, I find this to be the most fascinating.

              Not only are you correct, but you’re so obviously correct as well. There’s the old Jewish joke with “two Jews, three opinions” - that certainly holds true for leftists as well. Even more than the bootlickers I’m getting tired of the people who are so goddamn sure they’ve figured it all out.

        • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
          251·
          9 months ago

          They don’t oppose capitalism (example Russia & China). It’s closer to a support for authoritarianism (usually anti-USA, but even there shifts towards more authoritarian leadership receive support)

          • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
            203·
            9 months ago

            It’s not that they don’t oppose capitalism so much that they’ll ignore any sense of ideological consistency on their quixotic quest to make sure that everyone knows America is Bad.

            If you oppose America, you must be good, it doesn’t matter if you’re a genocidal kleptocracy or a genuine fascist. Internally this is rationalized by viewing America as the most dominant and powerful force for capitalism in the world, it doesn’t matter if other, even worse capitalists tear it down because the American empire must fall for socialism to rise.

            And it’s not like that particular thought is wrong, in a vacuum. America has proven time and time again that it will break any moral barrier to attack anyone even suspected of being a socialist, it’s just so evidentally self defeating you have to wonder if there are any true believers at all or if they’re all sockpuppets run from a Russian speaking basement somewhere.

            • Zeppo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              8·
              9 months ago

              The vibe is exactly like the astroturf shit that flooded reddit in 2016. Endless criticism of Democrats in the US, while never mentioning US conservatives for some odd reason. That’s why I get from the “Jor Biden really bad, genocide! Don’t vote for him, vote 3rd party!” They come to US left/democrat/liberal spaces and try to convince people to not vote for Biden, but where are the efforts to convince people to not vote for Trump? And then this “you say everyone is a russian bot lol!!” thing is also exactly what the shills on reddit did.

            • agent_flounder@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              9 months ago

              It’s not that they don’t oppose capitalism so much that they’ll ignore any sense of ideological consistency on their quixotic quest to make sure that everyone knows America is Bad.

              Spot on. Whatever that’s called, that sounds like much/most of the hexbear and ml instances.

              … America has proven time and time again that it will break any moral barrier to attack anyone even suspected of being a socialist,

              Sadly, you’re right. More to the point there are many examples of the US knocking down anything or anyone even suspected of threatening capitalists. Whether that’s unions within the US, governments leaning too socialist (yet being democracies), or whatever else. I know you know this; I just felt like venting.

              it’s just so evidentally self defeating you have to wonder if there are any true believers at all or if they’re all sockpuppets run from a Russian speaking basement somewhere.

              When they all come out with new talking points about the same time, all bearing remarkable similarity, and coinciding with notable (geo)political events, and brigading certain posts, it sure makes you go, “hmm.”

            • loobkoob@kbin.social
              41·
              9 months ago

              I don’t think it’s about capitalism/socialism/communism at all for a lot of them at this point. They have a fairly simple ideology: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And their enemy happens to be their own government.

          • Delta_V@lemmy.world
            6·
            9 months ago

            its still part of Russian geoplitical strategy - shifts to the right are self-destructive and help USA’s enemies

            during the 80’s, USA pushed the USSR’s allies in South America to adopt more conservative governments as a means of destroying them from the inside, and today Russia is attempting to employ the same strategy against USA

        • ShepherdPie@midwest.social
          5·
          9 months ago

          I’ve literally never once seen any of these people mention a single thing about economic philosophy. It’s simply shit talking the west and defending the Chinese and Russian governments at all costs. I think the whole “communism” aspect is little more than a smokescreen.

  • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
    641·
    9 months ago

    For those of you asking/ curious, the reason given was ‘yellow peril’. Really? I guess my being asian and directly affected by the Chinese activities in the scs makes me somehow a threat to yellow people?

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      251·
      9 months ago

      Same. I literally have family in China and therefore a real stake in Chinese society. Meanwhile a bunch of western tankies who have never been to China and don’t speak the language hand down bans merely for me relaying conversations I’ve actually had with real Chinese people in their native language about Chinese history and politics.

      It’s simple racism to infantilise all Chinese people like this, believing they need a bunch of white saviors on the Internet to speak for them and guard their cultural chastity.

      • s_s@lemm.eeEnglish
        10·
        9 months ago

        Simply mentioning china or any ethnicity at all is seen as racism to them because grounding reality in anything other than communist propaganda is seen as a threat.

        • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
          51·
          9 months ago

          Holy shit theyve drunk the cool aid. There’s articles about mainland students just exploding in college classes when bringing up Chinese topics. Or the video about the piano player being intimidated and wrongly accused of impropriety for making a video. The problem is when the authorities side with these bullies, or play it down.

      • stoly@lemmy.world
        6·
        9 months ago

        Did you know that if you support Ukraine, the tankies say that makes you racist against Asians? No joke , that’s what I was called. You see, they say, Russia is actually an Asian country.

        This isn’t a joke and happened to me. And the people were really really cross with me.

  • laverabe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    495·
    9 months ago

    thanks for the heads up. I just unjoined all lemmy.ml communities, and blocked the instance. That sort of censorship is not a good thing.

    • Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works
      232·
      9 months ago

      Some of them came here from Reddit when chapo trap house got banned. Others are straight up BRICS propaganda accounts.

      • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
        72·
        9 months ago

        Ok what even the hell is BRICS at this point? It’s geopolitical “stop trying to make Fetch happen!” by now, two of it’s members are in active decline, one is at the edge of being a failed state, and the other two are about as actually committed to some kind of anti-western bloc as the average American prison is to respecting human rights.

        • Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          9 months ago

          Yep. It’s a joke. Was always going to be a joke. Maybe without authoritarian assholes leading the two largest members it could have become something.

    • Dnn@lemmy.world
      253·
      9 months ago

      Funny, communists always insist China isn’t communist at all, so why would they care about it being criticized?

          • s_s@lemm.eeEnglish
            111·
            9 months ago

            Marx encouraged fascist dictatorships as a method to bring about the proletariat revolution.

            And this is why dictators love the, “give me just a little more power and once it’s secured I’ll hand it all back to the people, pinky swear” schtick.

          • el_bhm@lemm.ee
            123·
            9 months ago

            If you go by the origin of the division and their definitions, they certainly are right. Authoritarian gov means centralising power. People arguing for the Ancient Regime were also pushing better for the people rethoric.

            Besides, they are supporting a state that is closest to a nazi state. russia.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          2·
          9 months ago

          I disagree, they’re firmly authleft, the problem is “auth.”

          Being authoritarian about leftist ideals doesn’t secretly make you right wing because “authoritarian = right wing.” Leftism isn’t “when good,” you can have bad leftists and pretending otherwise is nothing more than delusion.

      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        104·
        9 months ago

        Because the only stance that tankies actually hold is “America bad”, to the degree that anyone that is an opponent of America must automatically be good and must be supported at all costs

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        210·
        9 months ago

        communists always insist China isn’t communist

        I can think of at least 95M Communists who don’t insist this.

        But modern American leftists are increasingly in love with China, particularly with their HSR and Tech programs.

      • Quereller@lemmy.one
        92·
        9 months ago

        Did the Lemmy developers register the name under the .ml TLD because they are such fans of Mali? Maybe but probably not.

          • Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            6·
            9 months ago

            The problem is some people are gullible. Yeah we’ll I know it’s their problem. But I can’t help to have some concern for my fellows in the internet. Though I also recognize their freedom to choose for themselves. It’s truly a conundrum. Where does concern stop and overstepping start eh?

          • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
            5·
            9 months ago

            It sounds good to let each user decide for themselves, but you must remember that these instances that you as a user block still get to have influence on voting. So even if you block all the instances you don’t want to have an influence, they’ll still have an influence on your feed.

            Not defederating from anything is not the best path if you want to shut out an instance.

    • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
      192·
      9 months ago

      Believe me. I’ve noticed.

      Just ignore them. They open with ad hominem attacks, or myriad assumptions about age, account credibiltiy based on registration date, nationality vs ethnicity, political leanings, etc. and demand your response. Let them stew in their ignorant hate.