I follow this person on Twitter, and I’m sure she means this literally, and I’m OK with it.

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    If I take my shoes off my feet will get dirty from all the dirt I tracked in by wearing my shoes shapiro-gavel Liberals destroyed with facts and logic once again.

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    i remember watching American Dad a couple years ago, and there was this was this episode about how francine’s adoptive parents were Chinese. and one of the running jokes of the episode was the mom going around telling everyone to take their shoes off indoors? and this was supposed to be seen as weird?

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    WE DO its disgusting… I swear sometimes I take my shoes off and find another pair of shoes under them… and a bowl of unseasoned egg salad in my hand… whiteness is a disease

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      oh no i’m not falling for that one again, if you want me to change into a cute maid outfit before sitting on the couch you’re going to have to ask nicely soviet-huff

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        When was the last time you washed your couch cushions?

        Also

        pronounjak-rage NOOOOOOO YOURE NOT MY FRIEND IF YOU DONT LET ME PUT MY SWEATY HOT BODY AND CLOTHES ALL OVER YOUR EXTREMELY DIFFUCILT TO WASH UPHOLSTERY

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      I’m actually glad my parents never really cared about this stuff although I do personally only rarely wear shoes indoors. Like if I’m doing work and in/out. And outdoor clothes I can only assume means like you were doing hard, sweat-causing labor or otherwise dirty labor. Not like driving to the store and coming home to change into pajamas before you sit on the couch (lol). Like yeah if I go for a jog of course I’m going to get a shower before I sit on my furniture or bed. But otherwise…

      But as a child of Yakub I am accustomed to living in my own filth

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        The metric I use for the couch/cushions is like this:

        If I took off the clothes on my body right now, would I put them into the hamper or are they still clean enough to wear again? If they’d go in the hamper, I’m not sitting on the couch with them.

        The metric I use for the bed is much more strict:

        Unless they are clothes I just took out of the drawers/closet, they don’t go in/on the bed.

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        Weird to just be assuming that people are white lmao

        but anyway if im alone on that one, maybe I shouldn’t be. So be honest, when was the last time you washed your couch cushions and pillow cases? Grimy mf 💀

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          You’re NOT alone and that’s not a white people thing, friend. Absolutely NO outside pants in my bed. Shirts are okay as long as they’re not grody, but pants are right out.

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                imagine having a bedroom couch, mind blown (okay not exactly, but I’m pretty sure even my wealthiest friends/family don’t have a whole couch in their bedrooms, maybe a chair or bench…)

                my dumb ass would probably sleep on it every night. I don’t know what it is, I don’t sleep well on couches, but it is 10x easier to fall asleep on them

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                  My partner and I aren’t super rich or anything, but having a bedroom couch is dope

                  They ARE very easy to fall asleep on… but once we got a like 3” memory foam mattress topper, BED is horrifyingly sleepable. If you don’t have one, springing for one of those is the best decision I’ve ever made for sleep. …except in the mornings, when getting out of the most comfy thing ever is a NIGHTMARE

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      thinking back to the person who I know who (consensually) sprays guests’ backs with alcohol before they’re allowed to sit on any soft furnishings in their home

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    I don’t know anybodynwhobwears shoes in the house. I guess Mr. Rogers did, but he had specific shoes he only used in the house.

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      That was really really good.

      As a middle aged man, I almost wish the girls were a little less sexually drawn, as I think I’d enjoy the anime for just the comedy.

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        Azumanga is NOT the show that comes to mind when I think of “sexualized characters” hahaha

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        This scene isn’t really a good example of that, Yukari-sensei is the teacher here. However some parts of the show are definitely weird that way, nowhere to the point of other shows fortunately.

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          if you look up the manga/DVD covers there’s definitely some sexualization going on. but I haven’t seen the show so idk if that extends too much to the actual content.

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              yeah, I mean its not like a moral condemnation exactly, just that as an adult I’m not interested in sexualized high schoolers and am uncomfortable with the extent to which they are used to market to adult men. The cover being a character in just a swimsuit or with her skirt blowing up is at least a bit questionable. Honestly devoid of context maybe I wouldn’t take as much issue, but I know how skeevy or worse outright pedophilic anime and manga sometimes are, so I have a hard time giving the benefit of the doubt when I see anything questionable. I definitely didn’t get the vibe that ““the animators don’t know how to [draw] a booby””

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                Really the only thing that I personally find offensive in Azumanga Daioh is this widely reviled recurring character called Mr. Kimura, who “became a teacher because he likes high school girls”. He appears in episodes 1, 4, 6, 7, 10-17, 20, 21, 23, and 26, I think in most of these episodes exactly once — but obviously with a character description like that, even a very brief appearance would leave a bad taste in my mouth. Kimura also briefly appears in the intro — the intro is incidentally also where that “skirt getting blown up” picture is from, that’s actually the character getting launched into the air and falling.

                Nevertheless, Azumanga Daioh is rated G~PG in most jurisdictions around the world. I’ve watched the show cap-a-pie with my boomer mom, a bit with my brother, and my mom even wanted to show Azumanga Daioh to an even older relative of ours, too. So Azumanga Daioh is, like the planet Earth, mostly harmless. I have sometimes thought about torrenting Azumanga Daioh just to give Mr. Kimura the ol’ purge-2 treatment, because without him, the worst the show gets is just a few eyeroll moments or maybe specific triggers for some people. You can check IMDb’s parents’ guide or DoesTheDogDie for more information.

                By the way, the “manga cover” I think you’re referring to is actually the cover of Dengeki Daioh magazine’s August 2001 issue. Probably specifically the picture used at the top of the Wikipedia article for “Dengeki Daioh”. So while it is plenty gross that that is in fact official artwork, it is not actually one of the manga covers. Those covers look like so (from eBay):

                Covers of Azumanga Daioh volumes one through four in Japanese. Each volume depicts the logo of Dengeki Comics in black in the upper right. Volume 1 depicts Sakaki, Chiyo, Tomo, Yomi, and Osaka in winter uniforms walking with their bags; a black speech bubble bearing the Azumanga Daioh logo in red and white points to Tomo's head; a golden speech bubble with a black numeral 1 points to Yomi's head; a black speech bubble reading "Kiyohiko Azuma" points to Osaka's head. The background is white with a gradient to a greenish yellow near the bottom. Volume 2 depicts Chiyo in a summer uniform waving against a white background. A black speech bubble is above her head, with the Azumanga Daioh logo in blue and white. A golden circle is on the left-hand side of the speech bubble and bears a black numeral 2. In the lower right corner is a black cartouche-like shape bearing the name "Kiyohiko Azuma" in white. Volume 3 depicts Sakaki in black trousers and an orange sweater with a high neck against a white background. A black speech bubble is to the right of her head bearing the Azumanga Daioh logo in orange and white. In the lower right of the speech bubble is a golden circle bearing the numeral 3. In the lower right corner of the cover is a black cartouche-like shape bearing the name "Kiyohiko Azuma" in white. Volume 4 depicts Tomo, Yomi, and Osaka in various summer clothes, each also carrying a bag; Osaka also holds in her hands sata andagi. A black speech bubble in the upper left points to Tomo's head, and it bears the Azumanga Daioh logo in yellow and white. A golden speech bubble bearing the numeral 4 points to Yomi's head. A black cartouche-like shape in the lower right corner bears the name "Kiyohiko Azuma".

                Edit: removed a gif in case it’s an epilepsy trigger

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        I’m confused. The one in red is the teacher, and the one in blue, the student, has only her head and forearms exposed and isn’t particularly chesty or curvy.

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          I’ve seen a few clips of this show in YouTube. It looks hilarious. But some of the scenes portray girls in very short skirts or with quite protruding chests. It’s definitely not as bad as a lot of animes. It’s just that I’m in my mid 40s, and I teach older girls, I just really can’t find any of it pleasant.

          I want to stress that I’m not bothered by anyone who enjoys the show. It’s just me.

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            I for some reason assumed this comment chain was about Nichijou. Then Yotsuba&. And now finally I see it’s Azumanga daioh. I’m not very bright today.

            maybe try one of the two former if you haven’t seen them, the humor is seemingly kinda similar (yotsuba& is related to azumanga daioh iirc, spin off or smth) and iirc they’re less sexualized than that one.

            I get the argument that always putting younger girl characters in skirts is just like, reflecting reality, that’s a common uniform, so that shows up even in very nonsexual shows sometimes, but a legit reason I don’t watch a lot of anime anymore is because of the way so many go out of their way to draw the fucking underage characters bending over in tiny skirts and such. Its fucking foul. They could portray a realistic skirt length and not be a fucking pervert about it, even if it maybe seems a little short to a foreign audience, but they mostly just don’t. Not that american TV is amazing about that sort of thing but its not as pervasive.

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              Yotsuba& is only a manga. Its relation to Azumanga Daioh is just that it shares an author, Kiyohiko Azuma. The two mangas might take place in the same universe but that’s just fan theories. There’s a few uncomfortable scenes in Yotsuba& with Fuuka, involving Jumbo, from what I’ve read so far (~1.5 volumes)

              Nichijou doesn’t have anything uncomfortable that I can remember.

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    When they wear shoes indoors, do amerikkkans put on their socks and shoes before they step out of bed?

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      In my childhood, my white family took our shoes off and put them in the closet. We walked around in socks all day.

      Having enough Asian and neat flat mates got me in the habit of going barefoot or having special in-house slippers (for cold days).

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        I was for sure “barefoot in home all day” camp growing up, but I’m in “socks” camp now that we have a bunch of cats hahaha

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        Not that I live in the S’Shah anyways, but whenever I’ve been there, I’ve always taken off my shoes just by the door, as does anyone else, and this goes for Norway as well. Putting them in a closet rather than under the coats and jackets and stuff sounds strange to me.

        What really gets me about Seppo houses is the doorknobs, though. And also the beds. And the asbestos.

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          Ya, as an adult, I just kick them off next to the door, as does my partner. Friends who visit just do this without having to be asked, so it seems normal.

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          What really gets me about Seppo houses is the doorknobs, though.

          yeah what’s the deal with the little globe door handles that give you no leverage and you have to awkwardly twist your wrist to open the door? and what’s the deal with the useles little clicky lock thing in the middle? what smart brain designed this bullshit and what lobbyist paid off their whole nation to get them installed everywhere?

          • They’re actually against code in a lot of places these days specifically because they’re hard to grip and turn for anyone with reduced grip strength, and a pain to open with occupied hands

            If a house has them they can stay, but for renovations or new builds a lot of people are going with regular paddle style door handles

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          Putting them in a closet rather than under the coats and jackets and stuff sounds strange to me.

          I’m not well traveled but in the US, at least the part I’m from, they usually are under the coats… in the coat closet, of which there is usually one by the front door in single family houses

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    There’s a woman in my city who’s made wearing shoes indoors her whole identity (she even changed her Twitter username about it). Such a weird concept to me…

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          You should not rinse chicken (or meat) in the sink, it’s a) useless if you cook them properly (as in, not eat them raw), because that will kill the bacteria and b) potentially harmful because you’ll splash around the bacteria on your sink/utensils etc where they will remain dangerous since they won’t be cooked.

          idk what the original commenter meant, maybe he missed a negation and wanted to say that white people rinse their meats when they dont have to? because that makes more sense to me

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          1. fresh chicken doesn’t need to be washed
          2. 99% of chicken bought at stores isn’t fresh, and has a layer of slime on it
          3. many people (mostly non-white) choose to wash chicken because of this
          4. white people think they will get sick from the raw chicken sprayback (but not the sprayback of literally every other dirty thing they wash)
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    Shoes off inside (and whether barefoot or socks/slippers is acceptable) varies widely by culture and time period.

    Plenty of White people don’t wear shoes in the house and conversely plenty of people outside countries who wear shoes in the home.

    I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness unless you’ve got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I’m not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)

    I did have a friend growing up whose family would literally walk dog shit inside the house - maybe this is what people are thinking of? Surely even more of a reason to leave your shoes on there

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      I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness unless you’ve got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I’m not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)

      Mud and stones very easily get stuck to shoes, and tracking in water is a dick move too.

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      I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness

      uhhhh

      you definitely track in dirt and dust and whatever’s on the ground outside (snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt,), if you wear the same shoes outside and in.

      It doesn’t necessarily make the person dirtier but it definitely makes the house dirtier IMO. Not by like, a ton, if you clean regularly its probably fine esp if you don’t have carpet, but I still am not a huge fan. The “tracking in bits of broken glass” thing actually happened to me recently. Bunch of car break-ins on my street and a few days later I start finding pieces on the ground in my apartment.

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        I am fortunate enough to not have to deal with snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt etc. I was pretty shocked at how dirty some cities were when I went to the US.

        I do a full change when coming back from walks (~ hikes ~) because I have indoor cats and who knows what I’d be tracking in.

        I also have a Chinese robo vac/mop that gets heavy usage because the cats like to drag their food outside their bowels and leave bits of crusty meat on the hardwood floors.

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          The worst part is my city is pretty clean for the US lol. But yeah snow is just unavoidable if the climate is right for it, everything’s getting a bit wet at least. (unless you are a bougie MFer with indoor parking and snow removal service and basically go from house to car to office without stepping foot outside, which some people do.)

          And besides a few times a year to clear grime and rotten leaves and dirt and keep the storm drains flowing, the streets don’t really get actively cleaned here except by random passers by, so those accumulate some level of things like broken glass, bits of trash, etc. Dog poop is not a common problem for me, but for people who have dogs and aren’t perfect at cleaning up their yards after them its much more common.

          I don’t know what level of street cleaning other countries have, or whether they just have a more conscientious populace, but yeah parts of the US are filthy

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            I live pretty centrally so these workers are out every morning at around 4-5am

            Suburbia gets cleaned every few weeks, but increasingly less with budget cuts

            I am a bougie motherfucker but to the extent that I can walk to work

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              we get a bit of stuff like that in the central business district, but its more like low wage workers going out and picking up trash than a full sweeping of streets/sidewalks. outside downtown its what I mentioned before. to some extent its because of low density, but also just public services are a joke in the US.