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      It’s not the rich call it what it is. Capital. When profits are impacted we will see change. This is why I continue to say no one is going to bat an eye when Florida gets swallowed by the ocean but when New York does? That’s when we will have a collective eye opening.

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      Elon thinks he’ll make it mars with neuralink implant, Peter Thiel will run his fiefdom in new Zealand, the Orange God King will…

      Xi Jin ping will continue doing communism with chinese characteristics and lean harder into Confucianism, the Europeans will return to fiefdom Feudalism

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    Honestly we are way past the point of any scientific reasoning. The public has voted that they are uninterested, and the US government and large corporations are about to be uninterested too.

    To be blunt… No one ever really cared, but the world kinda squeaked by putting scientists in front of statesmen and public broadcasts. Everyone kinda nodded along, and not just for global warming.

    That period is over.

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      Dayum. Well said. Though some people cared. We, the few, and Al Gore, for example. The great majority, no. It does appear that period is over, I agree. Perhaps this is how it has been for the last 4-5 decades. Maybe this hope’s death will be the last in our history.

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      A few people cared, fewer did anything about it. Most were more concerned with mass production of cheap shit.

      Got a heat pump to replace the gas boiler, bike instead of car and replaced the concrete paved garden with what will hopefully become a wildflower meadow with shrubs on the edges. You can actually just stop buying a lot of the stuff that is causing these problems.

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      No actually the people are interested and the megacorps still destroys the planet because they have no soul they worship only profit

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          I’m fine with that, they chose not to be worthy. I saw the masses shout it very clearly, they want to keep this nonsense going ad undas.

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    Good luck convincing the rubes that. Literally heard jokes about “global warming” today in the office. Had to say, well its climate change actually and wild shit means its not doing good.

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        It shouldn’t have been “save the planet”, it should have been “save the humans” because the planet will be here long after we’re gone

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          There once was an explosion the size of Russia because the coal and oil underneath it got in contact with magma, killing 99.8% of all life on earth (before the dinosaurs) 🦕🦖- this process released more CO2 in the atmosphere than if we would burn all the fossil fuel today (I’ve forgotten by how much more)

          Earth took its time, couple million years, but the carbon-silicate balance was restored. Edit: Fun fact 2 - during this time there are records of winds >800 mph, acid rain and temperatures >180°F

          Fun fact: There was not a single mass extinction because of the shift of the magnetic poles, all mass extinctions can be linked to the carbon-silicate balance.

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      Easy money.

      “It’s cold as fuck because a monster bolus of hot air hit the arctic from the other side of the planet, sent a chunk of the polar vortex down here. Heat directly caused this. Did you have a problem with the word ‘bolus’, or perhaps understanding the Earth is spherical? Was ‘spherical’ too big a word? I can dumb this down if need be.”

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        Yeah except I myself didnt know that directly either. I just knew that, no, this is because of climate change not in spite of it.

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    Last time that much fresh water got dumped in the Atlantic ocean (when the glacier over north america melted) it resulted in an ice age over Europe… So… Good luck guys 👍

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        Western Europe in particular benefits from being warmer than its latitude would suggest due to Atlantic Ocean currents.

        These currents are literally a coin toss away from breaking down, and it’s getting worse every year. Climate scientists are in unanimous agreement that the collapse is coming, and faster than a geologic timescale.

        If (when) this happens, European countries will look more like Siberia than the Mediterranean.

        Humanity is already dead. The time for drastic action was 30 years ago. We’re just talking corpses.

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        My thoughts exactly. As a non-European, it sounds like the appropriate response is to drive my Chevvy Suburban 5 miles on the highway for 30 minutes to work in near standstill traffic.

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          I’ll just be over here with my pickup truck acting as my lights and music while I hang out in the front yard.

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    The graphic isn’t all that accurate. The text says a colder period is because of a warmer planet but then the cold area from a meandering jet stream looks larger. The missing part is the warmer air that leaks into the polar areas, causing a feedback loop by further deteriorating the balance of cold and warm that drives the jet stream.

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    I swear just a few years ago it was polar vortex this polar vortex that on the news everyday about the cold weather and I haven’t heard it once this year.

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    Will the increased snow cover at lower latitudes reduce warming? (I’m guessing probably yes, due to increased albedo. But, snow is also an insulator, and might be holding ground heat. I don’t know which effect will be greater.)

    If it does reduce warming, will the amount be significant relative to anthropogenic climate change? (I’m guessing probably not.)

    And just out of curiosity, did the Southern Hemisphere experience similar polar disturbances last winter, or in the past few years?

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      The problem here is that the snow will melt at some point. The reason this is happening is because the sea ice that existed year-round until now is nearly gone each summer. The lack of consistent ice covering means that there is a greater amount of energy being absorbed by the ocean, perhaps not year-round, but that it’s happening so much more in the summer is sufficient to utterly outweigh any amount of temporary snowfall anywhere else on the globe.

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        How do I quantify this to my hypothetical parents who reject climate change, and to my hypothetical siblings who don’t know one way or another?

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          I mean, you could think of it like rain. Imagine that you have a bucket, and it’s out in a rainstorm. There’s a plant in the bucket with some soil, and a tiny little pinhole in the bottom that let’s out a couple of drips at any given time. Now, let’s say you want to make sure that the plant gets just the right amount of water, so that it still gets the right amount of rain, but it doesn’t flood and overpower the leak out of the bottom. What’s the simplest solution? Figure out how quickly the rain is coming down, and then cover part of the bucket so you only get the right amount of rain, right? Now imagine that some hooligan comes by and decides to muck with your bucket, because for the slightest moment, it will bring their sad, shriveled heart some measure of joy to make your life worse. They decide to move the cover. Maybe they take it off entirely, and that would guarantee the plant would die, but they’re a sick, evil little gobshite, so they only move it off when you’re out for the day, and then they put it back when you get home. When you go into your house, they take off the cover again, letting in the full torrent of rain. You look at the bucket, and wonder why the plant is getting flooded. Why isn’t the cover working anymore? Because it’s only there to help some of the time, and the damage that’s done while it’s missing is piling up faster than the drain can sink it away

          The plant is the entire world ecosystem, you are the careful equilibrium that has been in place since the Oligocene, the rain is sunlight, the cover is arctic ice, the little gobshite is the corporations and individuals that have decided that their personal aggrandizement is the only thing that matters.

          You want real trouble? Now imagine that when the level of water reaches high enough in the bucket, the cover doesn’t even fit anymore. That’s what happens when the permafrost and methane hydrates release their payloads in the coming years. That way lies the Permian mass extinction.