Russia's economy has entered a recession as gross domestic output fell by 4% in the third quarter, according to first estimates published Wednesday by the national statistics agency, Rosstat. The drop in GDP follows a similar 4% contraction in the second quarter, as Western sanctions pummel Russia's economy following Moscow's offensive in Ukraine. The 4% drop in economic output between July and September was less than the 4.5% contraction analysts had expected.
Okay, an article from a journalist who has been on the ground then. China has tight control over journalism in Xinjiang. This journalist found that his sources - both Uyghur and Han Chinese - were going silent. Other journalists report being followed, hacked, having hotel rooms searched, etc. China can paper over their actions with carefully curated tours by tame envoys all they want. It doesn’t change that they’re not acting like an innocent party.
Why don’t we look at a much more recent article from an AP journalist on the ground that failed to find any of the things western media keeps saying are happening actually happening https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-china-health-travel-7a6967f335f97ca868cc618ea84b98b9
Literally all you have is FUD without any concrete evidence for the claims. Also, if there were atrocities happening in Xinjiang that western media claims are happening we’d see a huge flood of refugees, like 2.2 million refugees we see from Afghanistan where actual crimes against humanity have been committed by your country.
On that subject, it’s pretty weird to see Americans doing hand wringing over the plight of Uyghurs when US holds 20% of world’s prison population as literal slave labor. The prisoners in US also just happen to be predominantly minorities. Even if the claims about Uyghurs were taken at face value, they pale to what’s happening in US right now. These are well documented atrocities as opposed to imagined ones.
Did you read that article? It says the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Conditions may have changed some, but the Chinese government is still oppressive towards the Uyghur minority. And they made it very clear that they could tell Chinese officials were censoring locals.
This would seem to explain it. China is preventing them from leaving, and when they do manage to then China pressures other countries to return them. No such pressure existed in Afghanistan.
They’re well documented because the US is an open society with a free press and organizations that concern themselves with the overuse of prisons. Government agents stalking journalists reporting on the prison system would be considered a scandal, not the norm.
It actually doesn’t say the exact opposite. When you read the actual facts that the journalist observes, as opposed to the spin, they do not find any of the oppression they’re looking for.
No, they claimed that without providing any actual evidence for that happening. It’s like you don’t understand how to separate facts from opinions.
Refugees would be going to all the neighbouring countries across the border from Xinjiang. Only a tiny minority of refugees goes to US from Afghanistan. They flood to the countries around Afghanistan.
LMFAO imagine genuinely believing that.
They noticed someone talking freely the first time, then the person being talked to by the men trailing the journalists, then the person they spoke to made a zipping motion across their mouth. It’s not spin, it’s being perceptive.
Their movements are tightly monitored and controlled. They are not allowed to travel. Afghans were always able to travel, even if some travel could be dangerous.
Are you incapable of thinking a single positive thing about US society? Yes, we have a free press, and there has been plenty of criticism and coverage of the criminal justice system.
Again, the narrative that the intrepid western journalists are uncovering crimes fits your existing biases, and that’s what makes it such an easy sell for you.
You’re willing to ignore all the objective evidence such as lack of any of these massive prison facilities, lack of refugees, and so on in favor of these subjective observations which you think are “perceptive”.
If you don’t understand why that statement is absurd, I encourage you to think about it a bit about what you said there. Also, explain what reason China would have to prevent these people from leaving. If these people are dissidents that would cause trouble, then China would be glad to get rid of them. None of what you say makes any logical sense.
I’m certainly incapable of doing mental gymnastics where US is a free and open society that has free press. One has to be utterly ignorant to say such things. Entire books have been written showing this to be false.
Okay, then how are you explaining the shopkeeper making a zipped lips motion? That doesn’t seem so subjective.
China has leaned on other governments to return asylum seeking Uyghurs. The article I linked to mentions several cases.
Oh? Am I going to get yet another link to Manufacturing Consent, work of infallible leftist god Noam Chomsky? Oh wait, there are literally thousands of articles bemoaning the school to prison pipeline, 90’s crime bill, three strikes laws, systemic racism, and hunger where there should be abundance. These are widely discussed in US politics.
Again, that’s an anecdote reported by a person with a particular agenda. You can go on youtube and find tons of videos of people living in Xinjiang, including westerners, and they go around and interact with people. Here’s an example.
You mean US and Saudi trained terrorists?
Weird how none of that talking actually translates into any actual action. It’s as if these kinds of articles are designed for the specific purpose of having a veneer of discussion so that people like you can point to them and claim there’s freedom of speech.
Free speech is a completely meaningless term unless that speech can be translated into action. Whenever there is a threat of actual action then you end up like MLK and Fred Hampton. Chapter 10 in this book documents lots of examples of political repression in US using intimidation and violence.
No, I mean people fleeing China and seeking asylum.
Good thing that guy doesn’t have any bias or anything. Not like he didn’t just wander right by the SWAT guy “having a nice chat”. Nothing could possibly be intimidating about a police officer in a SWAT jacket dropping by your store. No siree.
There’s action on criminal justice reform. It mostly is on the state level at the moment.
Yup, the US doesn’t have a pure history or present. But it doesn’t approach China’s open and systematic repression of dissent, and you’re well into whataboutism territory at this point.