Russia's economy has entered a recession as gross domestic output fell by 4% in the third quarter, according to first estimates published Wednesday by the national statistics agency, Rosstat. The drop in GDP follows a similar 4% contraction in the second quarter, as Western sanctions pummel Russia's economy following Moscow's offensive in Ukraine. The 4% drop in economic output between July and September was less than the 4.5% contraction analysts had expected.
What is your opinion of this NYT article that uses a source inside the CCP? It doesn’t seem to be related to Zenz.
I think it’s absolute horseshit designed for gullible dimwits, as many NYT articles have been shown to be over the years. If you believe that NYT has some secret source inside the CPC, I have bridge to sell you.
Why don’t we have a look at what leaders of Muslim countries who actually visited Xinjiang have to say https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/wjbxw/202208/t20220809_10737758.html
If China was an actual threat to Muslims then all the Muslim majority countries wouldn’t be supporting China. I love how Americans, who’ve made massacring Muslims into a sport, see themselves as a champion of Muslim rights in China while ignoring what actual Muslims say. You really can’t make this shit up.
Ah yes, a Chinese government website. They couldn’t possibly have a biased angle. And you never actually addressed anything about the NYT article, just dismissed it outright as essentially a hoax.
Address the content of the article instead of using ad hominem. The article discusses the fact that Muslim majority nation leaders came to China, toured Xinjiang, and support China. These are verifiable facts. Meanwhile, your NYT article has no verifiable facts. That’s the difference. I find it depressing that I have to spell this out for you.
It’s not an ad hominem attack. It’s completely justified to question how objective an account is when it’s literally propaganda. In this particular case, the envoys come from countries that need to play nice with China. They were likely given a highly limited tour. And even if they had expressed discomfort, would a CPC press release ever mention it?
They have been transparent about the general outline of who their source is, and why they do not want their identity revealed. Given that a source of that nature could be killed for that sort of leak, do you blame them?
Yes, it is an ad hominem attack. You’re discarding the source solely based on the fact that it comes from China. It literally states the fact that Muslim leaders toured Xinjiang and their comments about their trip. The envoys come from the vast majority of Muslim countries in the world.
Ah yes, all these envoys are just too dumb to understand what’s happening, it takes a white man from a country that hunts Muslims for sport to tell them what’s good for the Muslims. You ever listen to yourself?
I have a bridge to sell you, please dm. The article is literally unverifiable in any way. This is the same level of proof as the US official who was claiming that there was evidence that Russian missiles hit Poland before that story was debunked.
You believe this article to be true solely because it fits your biases, which is precisely what this sort of propaganda hinges on. You’ve convinced yourself that China is some despotic regime without bothering to learn the first thing about the country, and now you’ll uncritically accept any propaganda that confirms your biases.
I’m sure they know exactly what they’re doing, protecting their own country’s interests. I don’t for one moment think they would put the Uyghurs’ rights over the economic interests of their own country.
So is yours, beyond “these people came to China”. Well where did they tour? Was the tour complete? Were they given unfettered access to Uyghurs that did not fear a reprisal? The article proves nothing. Meanwhile the New York Times has picked apart the document they were given. Are you saying that they are liars?
Ah yes, and NYT is not protecting US interests, but is rather genuinely concerned about Uyghurs in China. Gotcha!
At the very least my article documents an actual even that happened and the reactions from real people who toured China. The fact that you can’t see the difference between them says volumes.
Yes, because NYT has a history of lying. NYT published a shitload of articles from Zenz as well and these have been thoroughly debunked. NYT is a propaganda tool. It’s frankly shocking that you don’t understand that.
Okay, an article from a journalist who has been on the ground then. China has tight control over journalism in Xinjiang. This journalist found that his sources - both Uyghur and Han Chinese - were going silent. Other journalists report being followed, hacked, having hotel rooms searched, etc. China can paper over their actions with carefully curated tours by tame envoys all they want. It doesn’t change that they’re not acting like an innocent party.